Can't locate the carb heat...

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Neat:

http://datamanos2.com/columbia/columbia_cockpit1.jpg

 

[Pedro]

It's the green lighted knob in the center. They make it the only green light to make sure the pilots don't forget about it in case of a go around.

 

[User546]

Looking for the Carb Heat knob... Sadly, you'll need to start looking somewhere over the eastern part of Texas.

 

[Fly_Chick]

I thought a go-around was not an option for the shuttle... one shot only, hence the 15000' x 300' runway. Always wondered what they would do if they landed short or long?

 

[Pedro]

I thought a go-around was not an option for the shuttle... one shot only, hence the 15000' x 300' runway. Always wondered what they would do if they landed short or long?

Oh they can go around! They are just so good they never have to!

 

[Fly_Chick]

So I do not need to duck when they look a little low returning this July (or August)?

 

[Pedro]

So I do not need to duck when they look a little low returning this July (or August)?

Don't worry Fly Chick, they normally come in a little high just in case, and then slip it right on short final!!

 

[User546]

Always wondered what they would do if they landed short or long?

Oh the result of that would be quite predictable!

Shuttle only has one shot, no engines to go-around with. Once they fall out of earth's orbit there nothing more then a gliding brick.

I visited the Kennedy Space Center recently, and they mentioned that in the early stages, they were having a big problem with being over-weight. So an engineer proposed that they remove the "landing" engines from the shuttle, since high altitude gliding to a landing had been perfected years earlier.

The reduction of the landing engines and required systems took over a million pounds of weight off the orbiter, and solved nearly all the weight issues they were having!

 

[Pedro]

C'mon guys, do you really think the goverment would build a plane with no second chance?

 

[TrafficInSight]

Looking for the Carb Heat knob... Sadly, you'll need to start looking somewhere over the eastern part of Texas.

*Groan*

 

[FracCapt]

Don't worry Fly Chick, they normally come in a little high just in case, and then slip it right on short final!!

I'm sure you noticed the throttle looking thing on the left side....which is the speedbrake control. They made it work similar to a throttle to make it easier on the pilots....no thought required, just the natural reactions they have as a pilot. Need to slow down/come down? Pull the "throttle" back, which deploys the speedbrakes.

What I'm really wondering is how they sit on the floor flying the thing!

 

[mattpilot]

What I'm really wondering is how they sit on the floor flying the thing!

Well apparently they don't. They are so good they can do it while standing up. Kinda like surfing.

 

[VNugget]

On a side note, they did land the Lunar Module standing up, as it was not equipped with seats.

 

[Fly_Chick]

Shuttle only has one shot, no engines to go-around with. Once they fall out of earth's orbit there nothing more then a gliding brick.

I took a tour recently also, and was under the same impression, that they have one chance, only a glider on re-entry. Was wondering to myself if there was something more they were not telling the general non-flying public.

 

[Pedro]

I was just kidding about the go around by the way, and the slip on final, didn't know you guys were being serious

 

[JCJ]

It is truly a glider, with no option for a go around. I believe that I have read that it uses an MLS approach, with a curved flight path to final. The glide angle is a whopping 15 degrees (as opposed to about three degrees for a standard ILS)

I read this off a NASA web page - here is the link

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/reference/shutref/events/entry/

no carb heat becasue it is fuel injected!

 

[MKaprocki]

I'm sure you noticed the throttle looking thing on the left side....which is the speedbrake control. They made it work similar to a throttle to make it easier on the pilots....no thought required, just the natural reactions they have as a pilot. Need to slow down/come down? Pull the "throttle" back, which deploys the speedbrakes.

The throttle looking thing also functions as a throttle (who'd a thunk it?)
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/sts-rhc.html#sts-gnnc-brake

Found this a few months ago when I was taking a class on the shuttle:
http://www.shuttlesim.be/
http://user.tninet.se/%7Emxa881h/pics.html

 

[User546]

I believe that I have read that it uses an MLS approach, with a curved flight path to final.

You are correct. A copy of the actual MLS approach plate is below:

http://www.bartnet.net/~jmt/ksc_mls_33.jpg

 

[mattpilot]

You are correct. A copy of the actual MLS approach plate is below:

http://www.bartnet.net/~jmt/ksc_mls_33.jpg

i wonder why they don't have any circle to land minimums? And why is the missed approach N/A?