Canadian Fed Ex 727?

[Glacialfury1906]

Just a quick question for Fed Ex guys. Recently passed a Fed Ex 727 in Halifax with a Canadian Flag and registration number on it on the cargo ramp up there. What's the story behind that? How many foreign registered aircraft does Fed Ex fly and what's the advantage (if any) of not having their aircraft U.S. registered? Thanks. Forgive me if this topic has been covered already, I'm just curious...........

 

[TonyC]

Ironically, in this day and age of "free trade" and all, FedEx cannot fly from one point in Canada to another. Back and forth from Canada to the US is OK all day long, but not from one point in Canada to another.


So, along comes a Canadian company that can use their own 727's to do the job. We bring the packages to a gateway, and they distribute them. They collect packages from far and wide, consolidate them at gateways, and we go pick 'em up. You might consider them acting pretty much like feeders, except in this case the "feeder" operates 727's. We can't fly their 727's, and they can't fly ours.

So, that's the "story behind that." You also asked "how many?" but I'm afraid I don't know. I would venture to guess "a few." Finally, you asked "what's the advantage of that?" Well, it's the only scheme, so far, that allows us to provide service to our neighbors to the north.

 

[Glacialfury1906]

Thanks for the quick reply Tony. Makes sense I guess. It was just weird seeing the Fed Ex paint job with Canadian flags stuck over it.

 

[JTrain]

That 727 belongs to MorningStar Cargo. I believe they own 2 727-100s in FedEx colours, one starts the night in YHZ, the other on the West coast (YVR?) - they go coast to coast with multiple stops.

 

[scabseeker]

Ironically, in this day and age of "free trade" and all, FedEx cannot fly from one point in Canada to another. Back and forth from Canada to the US is OK all day long, but not from one point in Canada to another.

TonyC, tell me you are not in favor of us flying point to point in Canada. Or do you think we can have cabotage in Canada without the reciprocal here?

 

[TonyC]

TonyC, tell me you are not in favor of us flying point to point in Canada. Or do you think we can have cabotage in Canada without the reciprocal here?

I said it was ironic, not wrong or right. I'd say the average citizen is under the false impression that NAFTA would allow anybody to go anywhere in North America - - such is not the case.


I'm in fact not up to speed on which of the freedoms are permitted in Canada. The consolidation of freight in gateways might be, in fact, a matter of expediency rather than international law. We might be permitted to fly FedEx freight from point A in Canada, stop at point B in Canada, drop off NO freight but pick up more, and then continue to Memphis - - I simply don't know. I DO know that a Canadian company (Morning Star) operates FedEx logoed 727's within Canada.

As for cabotage in the US -- it's already legal, thanks to Senator Ted Stevens, R-AK. As of now it's restricted to freight, and only through Anchorage, but it's the proverbial foot in the door. A foreign carrier can pick up US-origined freight in Anchorage and carry it to any other point in the US. Ain't that special.


Back to your question, though... Yeah, I think we ought to be able to fly point to point in Canada and do whatever we please, and they shouldn't be able to cross the border for any reason whatsoever. Selfish, huh?


No, seriously. I think we ought to be able to make as many stops as we please so long as all the freight goes through the US -- no picking up in Canada and dropping off someplace else in Canada along the way. (I don't have my handy, dandy Five Freedoms reference card handy, and I don't recall which one of them I just described, but you can discern the intent nonetheless.)

 

[FoxHunter]

According to the last FedEx equipment list Morning Star(Canada) operates 7 727-100 aircraft for FedEx. These aircraft are owned by FedEx but operated by a Canadian operator due to the lack of internal Cananian rights(Cabotage). They are aircraft #112, 127, 136, 180, 192, 103, 107.

 

[BonesF15]

727's

I took a couple of Eagles to the Halifax show last weekend and a couple of the 727 pilots came and checked out the jets. They told me that they run 4-6 727's and several more caravans. They told me that the ground distro was Fedex but the aircraft were morningstar.

Fedex was a main sponsor of the Airshow and we were all treated like rockstars.
My liver is still recovering, can't even think about keeping up with the Canadian drinking team.

Bones

 

[miles otoole]

Ain't that the troof. Did they always put salt in their beer? I could never figure that one out. I think it makes them even more thirsty.

 

[Pull & Rotate]

No self respecting Canadian would ruin a beer by putting salt in it.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

self respecting Canadian.

oxymoron?

 

[FedExpert]

Hey Hugh, great links. If salt in the beer gets you to drink more, why not?