Can we please lose the hats now at Citrus?

[waveflyer]

What are you willing to give up in negotiation leverage not to wear the hat?

This makes no sense....

 

[j41driver]

No... that is your justification for looking like an aircraft cleaner...

So...when the uniform is worn with a hat I look like a pilot but without the hat I look like an aircraft cleaner?

 

[Spidey]

That doesn't mean it looks GOOD. Let's face it, USAF uniforms are not on the cutting edge.

And you wore the USAF uniform for how many years?

 

[jetflier]

Yes, pants of which the bottom hem rests high enough on the shin/calf so that it looks like you are prepared to go wading without getting your pants wet.

YEP ! I saw that guy ...pants so short you could read Etnies on his black skate shoes,...he's the one with the clip-on tie thats four inches too short !.....and he wasn't wearing a hat !.......he did have a "sweet" backpack though...

 

[JI Gone OH]

We have to wear hats at republic. I foget to bring mine before every trip. It they want us to look and act like pilots from 1970 then they should pay us like a pilot from 1970

Or conversely, if you want want to get paid like a pilot from 1970, then maybe you/we should act like one.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Or conversely, if you want want to get paid like a pilot from 1970, then maybe you/we should act like one.

I'd LOVE to be RETIRED!!!

Where's my lump sum?

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

And you wore the USAF uniform for how many years?

Irrelevant.

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

YEP ! I saw that guy ...pants so short you could read Etnies on his black skate shoes,...he's the one with the clip-on tie thats four inches too short !.....and he wasn't wearing a hat !.......he did have a "sweet" backpack though...

Hey, at least he was wearing white tube socks!! :nuts:

 

[MINIME]

Or conversely, if you want want to get paid like a pilot from 1970, then maybe you/we should act like one.

Acting like a professional includes being a curtious, polite individual with some common sense, IN and OUT of the cockpit. In other words, NOT a tool. I've seen and flown with plenty of tools with and without a hat. The hat will not stop anyone from acting like a complete moron while fellow pilots endure him or while the flying public is watching.

Some of the groups that have the option to go hatless are in today's market, some of the highest paid or have some of the best opportunities for career advancement. I doubt that the hat would've given these groups a fifth dimension in their brain to negotiate a better contract or to stand up for themselves.

As far as the rest of the uniform goes, as long as the individual keeps it pressed and clean, he or she will always look professional. Lets keep the goatees and the backpacks out of the mix and we should all be just fine. I have seen at least two pilots around the country wearing the funny looking mustache! Not making it up.

 

[PCL_128]

So...when the uniform is worn with a hat I look like a pilot but without the hat I look like an aircraft cleaner?

No, without the hat you look like a stewardess.

 

[jhill]

I saw a Southwest pilot wearing a hat last week. I didn't think they had them.

The only guys that wear them here are check pilots and check pilot wanna bees. And a few bald/gay (not in an attractive way) guys. You know you're in for a long trip when the guy shows up in his hat and polyester coat.

 

[CatfishVT9]

But......your avatar......has a hat.

Are you a bald, gay Check Airman?

 

[njcapt]

Originally Posted by Rez O. Lewshun

What are you willing to give up in negotiation leverage not to wear the hat?

This makes no sense....

What part of it doesn't make sense? The minute that the company realizes that the pilot group wants to ditch a portion of the uniform dictated in the GOM it becomes a negotiating point. We got rid of hats at ATA during the concessionary negotiations forced on us by the bankruptcy process.

Losing the hat cost us 88 million dollars.

Given the black hearted F sticks running AirTran, losing the hat could cost the 12 hour max duty day, 10 to 15% additional copay on health insurance or sweet reserve language that allows guys on reserve to credit over 100 hours without working on their (miniscule) days off. The AirTran pilots really need to get their priorities straight before negotiations or they are going to get raped just like in the last two TA's.

 

[easydoesit]

PNCL128 I'm sure you wore your hat very proudly over there at Peaknuckle airlines. Are you the "Joe Pilot" type I hate to fly with? Face it people, we are just highly paid bus drivers in the sky. If you think you are any more than that, you are livin in the past. These airplanes fly themselves. Do you see bus drivers wearing dorky military hats?

Come on...I know we all want to feel important. Does a hat have to do it for you?

 

[PCL_128]

PNCL128 I'm sure you wore your hat very proudly over there at Peaknuckle airlines.

Yep.

Face it people, we are just highly paid bus drivers in the sky. If you think you are any more than that, you are livin in the past. These airplanes fly themselves.

Do you really view yourself and your profession so poorly? Pretty sad.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

So...when the uniform is worn with a hat I look like a pilot but without the hat I look like an aircraft cleaner?

No, without the hat you look like a stewardess.

And if you are a guy then there is a 97% chance your not in the 3% Klub....

Hat= guy looks like a straight pilot
No Hat= guy looks like a San Fran Fannie Flamer FA (aka dude looks like a lady)

Not that there is anything wrong with that...not wearing the hat....

 

[Spidey]

Irrelevant.

Wrong, rookie.

 

[Lear70]

Given the black hearted F sticks running AirTran,,,

ROFLMFAO!!!

I completely missed everything you said after that until I went back and read it again.

I don't care WHO you are... THAT'S funny!

Thanks for the laugh... :beer:

 

[FlyFastLiveSlow]

Wrong, rookie.

OK, drunken "genius" who doesn't use punctuation. What does having worn the uniform in the USAF have anything to do with determining my opinion on whether or not brown leather jackets look stupid at an airline?? NOTHING.

 

[flyn96]

The only guys that wear them here are check pilots and check pilot wanna bees. And a few bald/gay (not in an attractive way) guys. You know you're in for a long trip when the guy shows up in his hat and polyester coat.

Soooo, the guy with a hat is gay, but the guy who cares so much about his hair gel and frosty tips that he doesn't want to wear a hat isn't gay???? ........You're a ******************************!!!