Can the garmin 430?

[newmei]

Can the garmin 430 shoot stand alone GPS approaches? Garmin 530? In otherwords I have one garmin 430 in my plane, and I want to shoot the GPS approach in to ABC airport. (no VNAV, LNAV only)



Thanks

 

[105viking]

yup.

 

[Iceman21]

yup.

 

[newmei]

Geez,
I've had two airline pilots tell me otherwise.......There reasoning for buying a Apollo over the 430....(among other things)

Everybody else I ask agrees with you guys.

Is there a limitation of any type for doing GPS's that they might be talking about and I'm misunderstanding?

 

[JRSLim]

Yup Part Deux

We've got 2 planes with 430s.. they are IFR rated and therefore you can do 'standalone' approaches in them.
As far as I am aware, if a GPS is IFR rated, that is the only requirement. And of course the airport needs to have an approved GPS approach.. and you need RAIM, but that should be the whole deal.

 

[105viking]

apollo is garmin, now.
gns will do lnav functions, and in a few months is supposed to be able to do vnav/ waas with a hardware upgrade. check out garmin's website for more info. they also put on little seminars that details the functions of their products.
i use gns430's and 530's all of the time to fly gps approaches. i have no idea what you or your friend are talking about.
105viking

 

[Iceman21]

From what I understand you can upgrade the units to WAAS now, its a few grand, but hey if you spent that much to stuff one in your panel you probably have enough to upgrade.

Did your airline friends give you a reason why their apollo units are able to do stand alone approaches and not the -30 series?

Call Garmin to get the answer from the horses mouth.

 

[105viking]

local avionics guru told me that there was a slight delay, but it should be available after the first of the year. don't KNOW if that is true.
105viking

 

[A Squared]

Your airline pilot friends are out to lunch on this one. DId you ask they why they thought it wasn't able to do standalone approachs?

This link is to Garmin's spec page for the 430:

http://www.garmin.com/products/gns430/spec.html

To save you a click, here's the relevant text:

Certification


GPS: TSO C129a, Class A1 (en route, terminal, and approach)

VOR: TSO C40c

LOC: TSO C36e

GS: TSO C34e

VHF COM: TSO C37d, Class 4 and 6 (transmit) and TSO C38d, Class C and E (receiver)

 

[puddlejumper]

Last I knew, you still need to have an alternate listed with other than GPS IAPs available if the only approaches at your intended destination are GPS-based. Lousy grammar, I know, but that's been the reg for quite some time. I really don't think it will be an issue unless you're going somewhere that had just an NDB approach and it was replaced with GPS and the conventional navaids become unavailable. (or you don't have an ADF)

-pj

 

[105viking]

last time i looked it up, you cannot list an airport with a stand-alone gps approach as an alternate.

 

[Magneto]

last time i looked it up, you cannot list an airport with a stand-alone gps approach as an alternate.

You can list an airport as an alternate that has a stand alone gps approach just as long as the airport also has another approach other than a gps.

 

[105viking]

forgot to ad that part. you are right, if the stand alone is the only iap, you can't use that apt as your alt.