can anyone help me out?

[Detroitpilot22]

3 years ago i made a mistake and was convicted of operating while impaired. I have since learned from my mistake, but I just recently found out that you can't get into canada with one of these on your record. I am applying for a temporary resident permit from them and i guess that might help. I am trying to get a job with an airline right now, and I am having no success. I know there has to be at least one person flying for the regionals that has a dui on his or her records. If there is someone here that has been through this and could help, either on the message board or a private message, that would be awesome. It seems like the airlines i have talked to really dont care about one offense, but Canada does.

 

[wahoo250]

everything in life happens for a reason. take this as a gift and have another career. im not being sarcastic or trying to be funny either. its not worth the headache to try to get in the airlines because it s*cks anyway and you can make a hell of a lot more money doing something else where it wont even be an issue. go get a job outside aviation and ill trade you for mine. besides who the hell wants to go to canada. go some where warm where its practically legal to drink and drive.

 

[Detroitpilot22]

not quite the answer i was looking for, but thanks

 

[mamba20]

Chicago, the best thing that you can do is own up to it. I do know a guy who is now with a major who has a DUI on his record. If you really want to fly for a living then you'll just have to work past it. I love this career and wouldnt trade it for anything. Be honest about the fact that you screwed up big time and shine some positive light on it. Hell, at the very least you werent caught on duty by TSA!

 

[Detroitpilot22]

yeah, i am owning up to it, im telling the interviewers the truth when i go there, I just hope i can get into canada, because most regionals fly there.

 

[mamba20]

Chicago, PM me with your situation. Perhaps I can help.

 

[J32driver]

Are you saying you can't do a Canadian overnight with a US airline because you've had a DUI?

If thats it, I have 2 questions. Does a DUI keep you from getting a passport? If it does not, it seems to me all you'd do is show your passport like anyone else. I would think a DUI is a state offense. I doubt the Canadian Customs officials interface with the DMV records from each state? But I could be wrong.

I'm curious to hear the answers to these questions just because I didn't know about this law.

On a side note... I do know at least one person with a DUI that has done Canadian overnights.

 

[Detroitpilot22]

yes that is the main problem, canadian overnights. I m doing as much research as i can.

 

[blzr]

I knwe several people that had a DUI on record. Far as I know, they are all still flying. It may not be that you have them, just that most everyone else that interviews does not. I can't throw stones because I have been in a couple of situations where I could have gotten one but lucked out and got a warning.

Keep your head up and your record clean and things will come around for you!

 

[mckpickle]

Its not just DUI's. If they run you through the commputer and you have ANY mistermeanor(sp?) you can get flagged. A very large number of FA's at my company have to bid around Canadian overnights due to certain violations. I had a FO about 6 months ago and he went through a horrible proccess about 2 years ago because the canadians denied him entry due to a DUI. He got it resolved but couldn't go in for almost a year. I'm not sure but I think he had to pay some sort of "fine" to be able to get in from there out.

The beaver sniffers are acting like the gestapo. I have something on my record much worse than a DUI but I haven't been flagged yet. Oh and apparently they are also checking/confiscating peoples laptops looking for porn.

Send in the Cub-Scouts I say.

 

[hobbsmeter]

ChicagoPilot...

With a DUI on your record I believe all you need to do to get into Canada is some paperwork to bring their records up to date and pay a fee. Call the Canadian consulate nearest you, I'm sure they'll have the answers you're looking for.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

I think it's not a matter of a misdemeanor. It's that Canada considers DUI(OUI, DWI, ect.) a felony. They won't let you across the border if you are a convicted felon without jumping through hoops. And it's if THEY consider you a felon not if the US considers you one. There are ways around it, contact a lawyer.

 

[BID]

Just to add to the list, I have a good buddy who was hired at a major with a DUI. If you are not getting an interview or did not get the job, it might be because of other reasons and not just the DUI? Just continue on being a competitive applicant, I am sure an interview will present itself.

True, the DUI is a pain in the rear, but you can most definitely can get around it. It is something you can control, now think of all the problems you do not have, like a physical issue, now that would be tough to get around.

Regarding the Canada issue, at our airline if you have a misdemeanor you are not allowed to overnight in Canada. Well, you can overnight, but from what I understand the paperwork is not worth the trouble, so it is easier to just keep you out.

Good luck!

 

[CapnVegetto]

A DUI can be very tough to get by in the corporate aviation world, as it is a definite insurance killer. First part 91 job I had, they had a guy that was hired before me, was more qualified, even typed in the aircraft, and they couldn't hire him because the insurance company wouldn't cover him because he had a DUI like 5 years ago.

However, in the airlines, it's different. Mesa's former chief pilot had at least 1 DUI on his record, I know, and he's now at SWA. (Still don't know how the hell he got hired there, the guy was an a$$hole.) A DUI is definitely a setback, but it is by no means a career killer. You'll find things a lot more difficult now, though. It's unfortunate, but you'll get by.

 

[N813CA]

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At Comair, they just told us to tell them if we have the type of violations that would not allow us to go into Canada. I am not one of them, but I know we have pilots that are not allowed into Canada, and Comair works around that. Don't worry about Canada, get hired and then they will take care of it.

 

[Detroitpilot22]

thanks for all the info everyone!

 

[illinipilot]

Does anyone know where you might be able to find a copy of the Canadian regulation that deals with DUIs and flying in Canada?

Thanks,
IP

 

[ex j-41]

DUI Canada

Canada is a very compassionate country. I am sure that if you made some phone calls and actually spoke to a live person that you would get a pardon or a waiver.
"Blah Blah Blah i made a bad mistake 3 years ago and i really am a good person and i am really working hard at becoming an airline pilot. I know i made a mistake but is there anything you can do or suggest?" Or whatever....
Just make a case, speak to the PM if you have to.
The country is small (population) and they really will help you.
Just make it your Job for the next month to get it taken care of.
www.tc.gc.ca just to get you started.