CAL mec tells United to ceased and desisted with their scope plans

[100/hour/5y]

SCOPE UPDATE
This is an update on the status of management’s plan to place the CO code on United Express flights using 70-seat jets to and from CLE, EWR and IAH. As previously communicated, less than two weeks ago, we met with the Company to clearly express our objections and to formally request their contractual justification. We received their response last week, at which time we also received their request for a more complete explanation of why we believe their actions are a violation of Section 1 of the Continental CBA.

We have now provided that to the Company, along with our steadfast insistence that they confirm to us, no later than this Wednesday, Nov. 10, that they have ceased and desisted with their plans. As I have said before and I will repeat now—we are prepared to use all appropriate legal vehicles to bring resolution to this issue and ultimately prevent outsourcing in violation of our current CBA. We will provide you with additional updates as more information becomes available.

One Union. One Voice.
Blastmail from:
Capt. Jay Pierce
CAL MEC Chairman

 

[taxicabdriver]

If this goes thru and the pilots have any balls whatsoever, nobody will show up to work that day

 

[Skippy]

Who is that announcement from? And where did u get it. As always it cant be from yonited, were always the last to fn know

 

[100/hour/5y]

Who is that announcement from? And where did u get it. As always it cant be from yonited, were always the last to fn know

Blastmail from:
Capt. Jay Pierce
CAL MEC Chairman

 

[Skippy]

That explains it. Just remember ual is under an injunction, cal isnot and since were still two seperate certificates, im pretty sure cal pilots can do the whole chaos thing.

Pilots have to fight each other while mgt just adds fuel and yo mamma jokes

 

[Raoul Duke]

so it is ok so long as the CO code is not on the flights?

 

[rattler]

so it is ok so long as the CO code is not on the flights?

No it is not ok, but it appears to be legal. United cannot operate a CO flight number out of CAL hubs. They already operate UA flight numbers on flights like IAH-ORD. The TPA restricts growth at one carrier at the expense of the other. It is a 90/100 ratio (CAL taking delivery of new aircraft). So they cannot add more RJs on the United side and they are prohibited on CAL side. Jeff Is challenging the scope clause.

 

[HHH]

No it is not ok, but it appears to be legal. United cannot operate a CO flight number out of CAL hubs. They already operate UA flight numbers on flights like IAH-ORD. The TPA restricts growth at one carrier at the expense of the other. It is a 90/100 ratio (CAL taking delivery of new aircraft). So they cannot add more RJs on the United side and they are prohibited on CAL side. Jeff Is challenging the scope clause.

Is Smisek so out of touch with the pilot group? His actions thus far as CEO gives the impression that he thinks he's dealing with the CAL pilot group that rolled over for C '02. I'm not naive enough to think that there are no problems with the group, but challenging scope in this manner is an affront to everyone. This is an issue that most pilots here at CAL actually agree on.

Again, is Smisek just completely out of touch with the pulse of the pilot group, or does he have something else up his sleeve?

 

[Jetjockey]

Joe Merchant told him the CAL pilots will cave in.

 

[skywdriver]

hopefully this will unite the CAL and UAL sides and remind everyone who this real fight is against. the USAir merger was a fight between pilot groups, this needs to be a fight by two united groups for a contract that we deserve and can be proud of.