CAL hiring pilots with 1500TT?!

[Gorilla]

Amazing that the sins of the father become the sins of the children. Unless the scab-dad pulled strings, then no one should get slammed for what their father did.

 

[capt. megadeth]

Remember when Pilots looked like Pilots and the Flight Attendants looked like models. I liked it better that way.

I demand all the pilots I fly with look like models dammit!

 

[Deacon]

Why Post? lets see it is well know from fellow insiders that this individual got special treatment during the interview process. such as being sent interview question and being flown in a day early to get FREE time in the MD-80 sim to practice the sim profile. Hum This sure sounds like special treatment to Me!

I'm not here to bash on CO pilot's just there stupid hiring pratices. I think this act then pulling the whole pregnecy thing hurts alot of Good, Qualified Female pilots that are either working for CO or in the Process of getting hired or thru training.

Deacon I'm betting that your a scab since you justify these actions or somehow know this individual first hand.

Again who are these "fellow insiders"? But you are probably right this sounds just SO true. You know better than to believe everything you hear or read don't you?

Anyways if you really want to bet I am not a scab and was in the 6th grad during the strike but nice try.

Adios (bitter)amigo.

 

[Flybet3]

]Wait a cotton pickin minute[[/B]/QUOTE]



MUUUUAAAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! :laugh:

 

[hawkerflyer]

Continental seems like a great opportunity, no doubt about it. But with all this UA merger talk, not sure I'd want to be a new hire any time soon. Hope they don't do it.

 

[Palomino]

yeah...you should all just sit on your hands as CAL resumes hiring 60/month for the forseeable future.

if you're real savvy you will wait until all the stars are lined up and get hired at the very end of the wave

some can accept the risk of a job change. i believe i made a good move, but i was prepared to make the switch. if you're not comfortable with propelling your career forward then don't do it. i was and i'm glad i did.

 

[bearcat]

Continental seems like a great opportunity, no doubt about it. But with all this UA merger talk, not sure I'd want to be a new hire any time soon. Hope they don't do it.

You need to look at the facts......several of them. Nobody at CAL has stated anything about a merger. LK is very open that if 2 other airlines were to merge that CAL would not sit and the back row and watch the show. UA has stated they need to merge cause Tilton is a jacka$$ and they cannot sustain profitability. They have some serious issues over there with every employee group. The ANALysts have stated several times that a merger with UA and CO would be ideal. They are not part of the airline itself. This doesn't mean that a merger isn't going to happen.....I just think it is unlikely based on the facts...NOT RUMORS....for now anyway. Your guess is as good as mine, but I woulnd't watch the show from the sidelines.
-W-

 

[GoingHot]

What happened to everyone is treated the same

I have bad news for you. The playing field is not level, nor will it ever be. Seek therapy or deal with it.

 

[whatitdoing?]

Is CAL still using the MD-88 sim or have they moved to the 737??

 

[whymeworry?]

Read what Boyd says about mergers, you'll be better informed.

Besides what he says, M&A on Wallstreet is one of the most manipulated business' on earth. It works like this:

1) Large Wallstreet Firms with their bloated overheads send teams of investment bankers into the marketplace to seek out opportunities that will yield hundreds of millions of dollars out of paper.

2) Eventually, all the firms cooborate and decide to target an industry.

3) They then tell their own analysts that there is going to be industry consolidation in that industry.

4) The analysts believe it becuase the IB dept are like gods in their repsective firms. So the analysts start speaking like parrots to the press... repeating what they heard.

5) Meanwhile, managements and boards start reading the financial presses that consolidation is around the corner. Not wanting to be the last man standing in a consolidation wave, the CFOs dispatch a team to liase with the Investment Banking departments of these firms to create some sort of business synergies.

6) IB put together a dream team of lawyers and accountants to fine tune the details and viola! You now have a deal.

7) Agreements are made between all departments of all the firms on the deal (usually a lead of 2-4 firms with as many as 20 participating) to make to the following:
A) Take the company or new deal public
B) Assign an analyst to the deal (each firm will assign at least one), then come out with a "BUY" rating within 60 days of the deal going public. This is done to firm up the marketplace of the stock so that the insiders can slowly and secrectly sell their shares under the guise of "diversification". With a "BUY" or "Overweight" rating the average investor believes the stock will take off.... meanwhile insiders and the firm's own bankers are dumping stock, not all of it but enough to make them all rich.
C) Make a market in the stock. This means the firms together maintain an inventory so as to provide liquidity. By influencing their analysts to offer BUY ratings on the stock, the firms also benefit from the price appreciation of their own inventory positions as the market bids up the stock price, thereby double-dipping on the deal.
D) Get the sales department on board. This is the brokers, both retail and institutional who will peddle the deal to their clients. The Instutions will usually dump within 60 days while the retail investors will be left holding the bag.

8) All previous debt is wiped away (buyer beware). All owners of stock usually get the shaft here. Creditors and the government will walk away with something.

9) The new company is born. After labor and all other previously vested parties have been bent over and raped. Now the Wall street firms and their associated Investment Bankers start cashing out of their positions. This is where the IB guys really make their coin.

10) 6 months to a year later 1/3 of the employees are laid off to reduce overlapping of the new companies departments. Old management is now fired for pursuing a deal that was more or less a wash or maybe even a money loser. New management steps in.

The bankers and former executives are now long gone and much wealthier for it.

And you know what? It's all sanctioned by the government.


Don't get me wrong. Sometimes mergers work. But often time they don't. In fact, they are more often a failure than a success... especially in our business.

 

[GogglesPisano]

What do industry experts say about the airline merger mania of the 1980's? Only DAL-WA made any sense at all. However, the investment community, especially the M&A types, are seeing a successful USAirways emerge from a merger with AWA. This may give impetus for a new round.

 

[FLY CONTINENTAL]

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[bb9000cde]

After reading many of these posts, its very interesting. Many people are bagging on younger or lower time pilots. I have had flown with many new hires (I am on B756, and see a mix of peoople I fly with) and have been nothing but impressed with all the new pilots at CAL. I have flown with people from Comair, ACA/Indy, ASA, Skywest, AWAC, Mesaba and everyone is on their game. CAL did a great job, and 99.9% of all new hires are really top-notch. I ask many CA's I fly with how the new pilots are doing..and 99.9% say they are all great. I have been at CAL almost a year and a half and was in the 4th new hire class since 9-11. I feel very fortunate to be there and was the youngest and lowest time guy in my class. I flew 135 turboprop freight (mix of PIC/SIC), and then went to Lakes on the EMB and 1900 (was seat locked, paid as CA due to furloughs)..followed by about 3 years at Air Wis getting mostly 121 Jet/turbine time in my career so far. Everyone at AWAC in my class upgraded, but I left as CAL called..so I was an f/o as well. I had 4600TT and heard that CAL was opening the online window back in 2005. I literally refreshed my browser and was one of the first applicant probably to get the application in. I had just turned 25 when I interviewed..and worked very hard, even if I didn't have 121 PIC. I would have upgraded, but never had the opportunity too. I had 3 line pilot recommendations, but NO family who is in the business. I never expected a call, but got one shortly after..so perhaps for me, it was just being one of the first to apply. I know the average people hired are CA's from regional's, many furloughed ATA/USAir etc, and military..but I know I was fortunate. I wish everyone the best of luck, as I heard 70 a month now from a check-airmen I flew with last week. Get recommendations and keep applying, CAL is a first class operation and I have loved every second here. I hope everyone gets a chance at an interview, and wish people did not bash those who may by young with lower time. I never met any new hire with less than 3000TT, but I could be wrong. They type at want an ATP..so I cant image anyone less than 23 or less than 1500..because you HAVE to have that to fly for CAL..since there are many flights with IRO (relief pilots etc). That's my .2 so just thought I would share.
Thanks-

 

[miles otoole]

Good post. If you meet the mins, you are qualified. You don't need a single hour of turbine PIC to be a one of the 99.9% of "solid pilots." There are more high time guys with turbine PIC who somehow think they deserve the job more than a solid 3000 hour 121 FO with nothing more than jet F/O time. Just make sure you know someone on the inside in either case.

 

[foofighter145]

Having experience in the left seat never hurt though, especially when you fly with the not so stellar el Capitano, which will happen...it's not just about flying the plane at this point, that's a given at this equipment level... but having "been there done that" for a certain situation" is far more valuable than that of the "there I was on the ILS" credo - the fact that 9/11 held most of us up an extra 5 years in that left seat didn't hurt either...

 

[Uniform Shop]

As the offspring of a scab she's got two choices as a pilot in this industry. Go to CAL or Airtran. I think she picked the right one but I have heard that Airtran has a larger percentage of scabs and she would probably fit in better.

She can work at any airline in the industry. ALPA doesn't do the interviews, the company does. I know guys who have worked for AA/ATA/USAir(America West)/FedEx and UPS and they are the sons or daughters of a scab.

They won't be held accountable for their parents actions. Hopefully they won't cross the line if they are in the same situation but that's a decision they will have to make and I'm not going to judge them for their parents decision.