CAL Flight Operations Management to Flu Crew: "Drop Dead!"

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

What's all this? I thought that CAL was the place to be! I thought it was all about 2 year upgrades, peace, love, harmony and free Ford Explorers?

Where's Gordo?

Let that be a lesson to the SWA guys. Good management rarely survives the first generation. In 10 years, this is you.

Nu

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

UAL and CAL... battle it out of the title of "My Airline Sucks More"

 

[Cardinal]

Where's Gordo?

Let that be a lesson to the SWA guys. Good management rarely survives the first generation. In 10 years, this is you.

Nu

+1. CAL hasn't made one single visionary move since Gordon left. Kelner has been coasting on the inertia of the Bethune years - same model, same ASM split, same routes. In business, change or die.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

Larry got pay cuts without bankruptcy from the cheapest pilot in the majors, keeping CAL below every other bankrupt carrier since 911. He then got a new group of junior pilots as a result of retirements who didn't like it, so he furloughed a few just to put the whole group in line. And he reinforced the lessons by getting the senior scabs to tell everyone how great CAL is without UAL.

Larry then attacked the companies safety. He blew open the industry leading scope with the development of a dangerous code share named COLGAN. Nice work Larry. CAL's passengers are now riding on a cheap unsafe airline on a CAL ticket. Under Larry's watch he has managed two accidents in 2009 with 49 dead in BUF and many injured in DEN. What role did he play in those accidents? BUF was his direct action. DEN was the result of him cost cutting training.

CAL's re-entry to reality is becoming apparent to all. Who ever believed the hype of CAL setting the standards was a fool of the public relation companies lies.

 

[TNPILOT]

The actions of this EWR CP are inexcusable. But this is a good example of why it's better to "beg for forgiveness rather than ask for permission."

 

[freightdogfred]

This Captain, Luis Vireilha, DOB 5/28/53, hired at CAL 83, why should he have any problem with a management pilot tellin him to get his azz out to fly?

He didn't have any prob crossin a line in 83 to fly.

 

[Cardinal]

Disregard.

 

[SFR]

Me!!!

You guys are really cry babies aren't you. It is not that bad. Let me guess, you are previous XJT or Comair.

 

[nimtz]

This Captain, Luis Vireilha, DOB 5/28/53, hired at CAL 83, why should he have any problem with a management pilot tellin him to get his azz out to fly?

He didn't have any prob crossin a line in 83 to fly.

Unfortunately we don't have the luxury at CAL of castrating scabs if they are actually sticking up for themselves against management. Heck we're the only union that I know that has had a scab as Chairman. It's getting better, but Age 65 didn't help (THANKS SOUTHWEST!!!)

We plenty of scabbies and non scab company saviors that would of pressured the rest of the crew to just 'keep the schedule' and blast off for NRT. Witness the dipsh!ts that slept in the crewroom during the IAH ice storm cause scheduling wouldn't get them hotel rooms. Those are the fellas that I wish would medical out like today. At least Luis doesn't fall into that mindset.

 

[Dewey Oxberger]

You guys are really cry babies aren't you. It is not that bad. Let me guess, you are previous XJT or Comair.

7 years at XJT, and I got hired here the old fashioned way, not a Schindler's Lister or a PIG. I remember you and I went around and around about this a few months ago. I personally am happy here. The few times I've needed something from the CPO they've helped me out. At 85% of lineholders I don't expect much from PBS, so when I get a 75 hour 18 day off line with 2 weekends like this month I'm pretty darn happy. With little expenses I can live comfortably on 3rd year pay and as a 737 lineholder our atrocious lack of workrules doesn't affect me nearly as negatively as say an EWR 757 pilot.

HOWEVER, when I see our mgt take over 1/3 of a month's pay from a crew for making a decision that likely SAVED THE COMPANY MILLIONS OF $$$ IN LIABILITY, THAT PI$$ES ME OFF!!! When the company publicly commends an FA for sharing her Ipod with a customer while completely ignoring the 757 crew whose superior airmanship saved the company potentially BILLIONS IN LIABILITY ALONG WITH OVER 200 LIVES, THAT PI$$ES ME OFF!!! Rant over. :beer:

 

[luckytohaveajob]

How's the crew room sleeping going these days?

Still getting hotel rooms? Do you get your own room?

 

[SFR]

7 years at XJT, and I got hired here the old fashioned way, not a Schindler's Lister or a PIG. I remember you and I went around and around about this a few months ago. I personally am happy here. The few times I've needed something from the CPO they've helped me out. At 85% of lineholders I don't expect much from PBS, so when I get a 75 hour 18 day off line with 2 weekends like this month I'm pretty darn happy. With little expenses I can live comfortably on 3rd year pay and as a 737 lineholder our atrocious lack of workrules doesn't affect me nearly as negatively as say an EWR 757 pilot.

HOWEVER, when I see our mgt take over 1/3 of a month's pay from a crew for making a decision that likely SAVED THE COMPANY MILLIONS OF $$$ IN LIABILITY, THAT PI$$ES ME OFF!!! When the company publicly commends an FA for sharing her Ipod with a customer while completely ignoring the 757 crew whose superior airmanship saved the company potentially BILLIONS IN LIABILITY ALONG WITH OVER 200 LIVES, THAT PI$$ES ME OFF!!! Rant over. :beer:

Well, I can agree with that. It pisses me off too. But we need to rememner, "Don't work for the system, make the system work for you!" I do that on a daily basis and it is a lot less stress.

Peace out

 

[SFR]

It is time to fly safe, always!

 

[Ex737Driver]

We plenty of scabbies and non scab company saviors that would of pressured the rest of the crew to just 'keep the schedule' and blast off for NRT. Witness the dipsh!ts that slept in the crewroom during the IAH ice storm cause scheduling wouldn't get them hotel rooms. Those are the fellas that I wish would medical out like today. At least Luis doesn't fall into that mindset.

Don't forget the "Friends of Fred". They were a little pissed off at the last Magenta Line and some more than fit the "savior" mold.

 

[Bad-Andy]

never mind.... it sucks everywhere..........