C-500 type

[Newbomb]

Does anybody know who has the least expensive C-500 type rating course out there? Thanks.

 

[2000flyer]

No offense intended, but you get what you pay for. If you're looking at it for a job possibility, how will the prospective employer look at a new type rating from Cheap Charlies Citation Certificate Shop or from a more reputable source such as SimCom, SimuFlite or FSI?

I have a buddy who went to a [unnamed west coast] school for his C500 type. After the checkride, which by the way took 15 minutes (if that tells you something), the owner of the facility asked if he'd like to go to XYZ for dinner and get a little more time in the plane. Well, they went, finished dinner and headed back to the airport. After sitting in the lobby for over two hours, my friend finally asked when they were heading back to the home airport. "When our passengers arrive" replies the owner. Seems the guy needed an SIC for the Part 135 trip and was using my friend without telling him. How legit is that?

Again, certainly not all schools are like this, but you really do get what you pay for!

Fly safe!

2000Flyer

 

[bigD]

I have a buddy who went to a [unnamed west coast] school for his C500 type. After the checkride, which by the way took 15 minutes (if that tells you something), the owner of the facility asked if he'd like to go to XYZ for dinner and get a little more time in the plane. Well, they went, finished dinner and headed back to the airport. After sitting in the lobby for over two hours, my friend finally asked when they were heading back to the home airport. "When our passengers arrive" replies the owner. Seems the guy needed an SIC for the Part 135 trip and was using my friend without telling him. How legit is that?

Man, if some guy pulled that crap on me, I would have purchased a one way ticket home via the airlines and leave it to him to explain to his pax where the F/O is.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

thats actually pretty damm funny!

you DO get what you pay for.

 

[414Flyer]

I think one problem is some insurance companies might want a type rating thru an approved company, not just from anywhere

 

[2000flyer]

I think one problem is some insurance companies might want a type rating thru an approved company, not just from anywhere

Excellent Point!!!

2000Flyer

 

[Rick1128]

What you can do is get a qucikie type then go to SimCom, FSI or Simuflite and do a recurrent course. That satisifies the insurance company and saves you between 20 and 35%. One of the costs in the full initial program that you will not be told about from any of the above companies is that if you do not certain strict requirements, you will only get a provisional type rating and can not act as PIC until it is remove by either a checkride referred to as a 15% ride or by logging 25 hours of supervised PIC.

Some of those requirements are:

A jet type rating,

500 hours SIC in type, or

1000 hours SIC in jets of equivilent size or larger.

 

[Meiguy]

Of Simuflite, Simcom, and FlightSafety; Simufliite was the cheapest. They were $9900 while Simcom was $11,000 and at the high end Flightsafety at $14,700. Don't know about any quicky programs. As far as quality of education, don't know personally, but I've heard good things about Simuflite, with alot of satified customers. Don't know if FlightSafteys name outways the cost in this case, unless your company has some sort of deal with them.

 

[2000flyer]

Don't know if FlightSafteys name outways the cost in this case, unless your company has some sort of deal with them. [/B]

The first word in cost at FSI is FLEXABLE! They are well aware of SimuFlite and Simcom's prices and they'll work with you.

As for as brand 'C' schools, I've seen some as low as $4000. If you do choose to go to one of these schools, take Rick1128's advise and do a recurrent at a name brand training provider. For four grand, all you're going to get is the basics to pass a checkride. That is NOT WHAT YOU WANT. At least I'd hope you want complete systems knowledge to go with your training.

2000Flyer

 

[Newbomb]

Thanks for the info. The plan all along has been to go to recurrent training after the type is done. That's why we've been searching for a reasonably priced type program that we can send our guys to.

 

[Rick1128]

If you are doing more than one pilot, you might be able to work a package price.

There are several schools around. I did my Lear type with Stel at Chrysler Aviation out of Van Nuys. And I was happy with them. Then there is Jet Type out of Fort Lauderdale. I have not heard too much negative about them either.

 

[Archer]

Do schools like Simuflite, Simcom and FSI offer training in the actual airplane? or just simulator based training?

It seems very attractive to get a couple of hours of flying done in an actual CE-500...

for example, there is this guy that owns a 500, and gives Initial type ratings in it.

http://www.waltbradshaw.com/type_ratings.htm

He suggests you do the initial from him for 5 grand, and then go to those schools for recurrent.

So you get actual Citation flight time, and then sim time from a very well known training school like the one mentioned above.

All ATPs does jet transition in a 500 too...if you check it out at their website, you can see a video of it.