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You know there are a lot of jobs on the line and possibly the survival of one of the last good regionals to work for. A lot of pilots have significantly reordered their lives to start up the IAD operation and then have the rug pulled out from under them curtesy UAL. Bad new here could certainly hurt not only the AWAC pilots but also the profession. AWAC treats you well in training and other low bidders either don't pay you in training or mooch off the new hires in lots of other ways. Let's not take it so lightly.....OK?
 
WhiteCloud said:
You know there are a lot of jobs on the line and possibly the survival of one of the last good regionals to work for. A lot of pilots have significantly reordered their lives to start up the IAD operation and then have the rug pulled out from under them curtesy UAL. Bad new here could certainly hurt not only the AWAC pilots but also the profession. AWAC treats you well in training and other low bidders either don't pay you in training or mooch off the new hires in lots of other ways. Let's not take it so lightly.....OK?


I hope you know I'm not making light of AWAC, just this freaking moron being a loser.

Sorry...
 
Worst case would be if US Air did not get the extention on the 15th, then all sorts of creatures would be coming out of the woods (you know who they are) with 50 seaters extremely desperate to fly for UAL. Hope United is not waiting for this to happen to try to get the 'lowest' bidder.

Good luck to all you guys at Whiskey... hope you guys get it.
 
I heard they didnt lose their UAL flying and they got some code share agreement with Air Trans. The source also told me they Air whiskey is going to drop their mins too. Not a joke, this is what i heard. I'll believe it when i see it. Has anyone else heard anything similar to what i heard?

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I think Indy knows they did'nt get it. hence the layoffs. I think United is going to drag this out tell the Usair thing goes down, and they may get even lower bids. I hate to see it but 05 is going to be the trying year for most airlines even regionals.
 
cargojunkie said:
I don't have any do you?


Ok, I laughed. Cuz I was doing the same thing earlier today.

Oh well... time to sit back and continue waiting. Tic toc tic toc... ugh :rolleyes:
 
glad to see somebody laughed. I'm just waiting to see if I have a job. It's out of my control What else can I do but laugh.


CHICAGO (Dow Jones)--United Airlines has asked the judge overseeing its bankruptcy case here for permission to extend the exclusivity period on its reorganization plan through April, according to court documents.

UAL Corp.'s (UALAQ) United said that a three-month extension to the exclusivity period, a part of bankruptcy law that prevents the submission of rival reorganization plans, would allow the company "to capitalize on positive momentum in implementing its restructuring objectives."

The current exclusivity period was set to expire on Jan. 31. The proposed extension would run until April 30. A hearing on the matter has been scheduled for Jan. 21.

Chicago-based United filed for bankruptcy in December 2002 and has said that it expects to emerge sometime this year.



The airline last week secured a number of key concessions from its union groups.

In recent days, United has reached tentative agreements on concessionary new labor contracts with its flight attendants and its mechanics. The company also has reached an interim deal with its machinists.

But the bankruptcy court last week threw out a complex deal that was negotiated with its pilots union, which resulted in the withdrawal of pacts with two smaller unions. United has pledged to work quickly on new deals with those groups.

United, in reaching the agreements, was able to avoid a high-profile trial regarding its requests to have the existing contracts canceled. That trial was slated to begin last week on Friday.

Beyond the labor savings, United said it will continue to downsize its aircraft fleet by rejecting contracts on 15 Boeing 737s this month. The company has already reduced the cost of operating its fleet by about $500 million per year and in early October announced a 13% reduction to its fleet to 455 planes.

United is evaluating initial proposals on its bid request for the regional airline routes currently served by Air Wisconsin. After seeking bids from 14 regional airlines, including Air Wisconsin, the company received 11 expressions of interest. United will now work with each bid and identify the best package, according to the filing.

The termination of pension plans is another issue on the horizon. Federal law requires between 60 days to 90 days advance notice of voluntary termination. The company said it must begin evidentiary proceedings both with the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. and in bankruptcy court to determine if the company satisfies federal law for a voluntary termination.
 
Hmmm I have an interview there coming up soon..... I can't imagine they would be calling people in for interviews if they didn't think they were going anywhere with UAL or somebody else.
 
We all fear the unknown and that's where they're at right now. If I had a $1,000 to bet on their success....I'd do it without thinking twice.
 
US air came out of bankruptcy WAY too fast. Does anyone have the inside scoop of why they left the "womb of business protection" so early? And why the he!! did they buy all of those emb170's for USair Express? What were they thinking? They could have come out of bankruptcy a leaner more efficient airline. And someone please tell me why did they pick the hubs that they did? If I had their hubs and went into bankruptcy I would come out of bankruptcy with a Point to Point or a "city of interest" plan...kindda a Hub on estrogen but without all the mood swings.



Their business model sucked I really don't understand why they did some of the things they did. You know when the ex-cfo of continental (started when they sucked too and was the real reason for co's success) says f/ck it I am outta here...you KNOW there are going to be some problems!!!!



Now for the record this is by no means a shot at the employees working there but a question of the people who get the BIG money even if they Suck--management!!!



Does the panel have any idea what the he!! they are doing over there in USair world?

 
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Official Deadline?

Wasn't the January 10th deadline set by the bankruptcy court?


Hmmm I have an interview there coming up soon..... I can't imagine they would be calling people in for interviews if they didn't think they were going anywhere with UAL or somebody else.


I think we are hiring strictly for attrition. With all the base closures and brutal commutes, a lot of people are leaving. Good luck on the interview!
 
Yes, this is true we are hiring for the attrition and expect limited hiring until a contract with UAL is affirmed. Regardless of what #itching may occur in the crew room and posted Whiskey drivers are crossing their fingers and are optimistic for a contract.


Still, I like flying here at AWAC and wish you luck in Appleton for the interview.. Great group of pilots to work with!!!
 

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