Breaking into the Corp aviation world

[Floyd94]

Good luck finding a 7on/7off schedule(or any firm schedule) in Part 91. That being said, it's well worth it.

Have you seen a good Part 91 flight department schedule?? Puts that 7/7 to shame.

 

[maximizer]

been doin p91 for about 25 yrs and never had a 7/7 sched. it has been a great career, would do it again. fixed sched wouldn't be great for me. to each his own. most p91 pilots i know , play more than work.

 

[Floyd94]

been doin p91 for about 25 yrs and never had a 7/7 sched. it has been a great career, would do it again. fixed sched wouldn't be great for me. to each his own. most p91 pilots i know , play more than work.

Exactly my thoughts. The 7/7 can be brutal, being away from your family that long.

 

[Flyby1206]

Thanks for all the replies, I appreciate the info. I definitely know that going straight into a GV job isnt going to happen, nor should it. At this point I just want to fly less than 90hrs a month and spend more than half the time at home without being gone a week at a time. I cant afford to take a paycut from my current crap RJ FO pay. Maybe I am being too unrealistic and I just need a reality check, but I want to at least look at other career options to know what is out there.

 

[AA717driver]

Almost everyday I see someone that wants to jump from 121 to 91 and is looking for the top 91 gigs out there. And before you even qualify for a highly regarded NJA job you want to know if jumping with a type prior to a full year is acceptable. I have 15+ years corporate, several types, and have flown for 5 Fortune 500 companies so if I decide to jump to 121 can you tell me how I can get a Captain job with Southwest? Because anything else would be a lateral or downgrade move. If I bang on the CP's door at Southwest and show him how motivated I am can I pass up the first 1000 seniority numbers because I've already spent my time at the bottom. If you want a 91 gig with no 91 experience there is a very easy 3 step way to get it:
1. Entry level crap job. Take what you can get and get what you take. Crap schedule, pay, and QOL(sound familiar). 3 - 5 years and maybe a type
2. Descent level job. 5 - 10 years. Descent schedule, descent pay, descent QOL. Hey I could ALMOST retire here.
3. THE JOB. Hold your descent job and make contacts and don't stop till your dream job comes to you. Pray some other big company with a crappy flight department doesn't buy you and send you packing!!

Just because you are currently paying your dues on the 121 side doesn't mean you get 91 credit, just the same way 91 doesn't get 121 credit. Good luck in your job hunt but set realistic goals because I know a lot of overexperienced guys in the Northeast are looking for the same job you are!!

Take the above and throw in some psychotic management and the seemingly-requisite backstabbing co-worker you inevitibly run into. If you can navigate THAT minefield, you'll probably get where you think you want to be.

There are few perfect jobs out there and not a whole lot of REALLY good ones--in any segment of this business.

It's up to you to either be happy or not. Happiness rarely finds you... TC

 

[Floyd94]

Take the above and throw in some psychotic management and the seemingly-requisite backstabbing co-worker you inevitibly run into. If you can navigate THAT minefield, you'll probably get where you think you want to be.

Sounds like a 121 operation to me.

 

[Flyby1206]

It's up to you to either be happy or not. Happiness rarely finds you... TC

One of the most prophetic quotes ever from FI! Thank you

 

[rumrnr78]

Flyby- Where are you living now? Would a part-time job at the airport be a possibility? Maybe flight instruction? Never know who you will meet.
The fractionals would be a good avenue as well. And, given the glacial pace of the corporate hiring process honoring a contract should be no problem.
Cheers- rum

 

[Flyby1206]

Flyby- Where are you living now? Would a part-time job at the airport be a possibility? Maybe flight instruction? Never know who you will meet.
The fractionals would be a good avenue as well. And, given the glacial pace of the corporate hiring process honoring a contract should be no problem.
Cheers- rum

Currently living in the PSM area, flight instructing would be great but my current 121 gig doesnt allow flying on the side per our contract. I could still do it and just personally keep track of my 100hr/mo limit, but I am usually flying 90+hrs 121, so.... gets tricky. I might see about part-time FBO jobs as a way to make contacts, any job in particular that has more exposure to the corp pax/crews?

 

[snow-back]

Does Bombardier fly out of KBDL? I'm not sure what the job is like or how far you're willing to get from PSM, but I see postings for Bombardier once in a while.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

What's your total time and multi time?

Mr. I.

 

[AA717driver]

Sounds like a 121 operation to me.

Yeah, that's why I said few really good jobs in ANY segment these days.

Snowback--BBD has been discussed here a while back. I think any demo pilot job is a good stepping stone to one of those really good jobs. I've heard there have been some personality conflicts in the BBD department in the past. Still a good opportunity for someone not yet ready to declare it "THE" job. JMO. TC

 

[snow-back]

Snowback--BBD has been discussed here a while back. I think any demo pilot job is a good stepping stone to one of those really good jobs. I've heard there have been some personality conflicts in the BBD department in the past. Still a good opportunity for someone not yet ready to declare it "THE" job. JMO. TC

I think I've heard that about BBD before. It's easy to understand however, how one would not consider THAT demo job one of "THE" jobs. This is coming from a Savannah based pilot though.

 

[FORE LEFT]

Trust me my friend it is possible. I worked at a regional, decided the airlines were not for me, and took a 135 job that kept me at home. I spent about a year and a half there and got a preatty cush corp job..

 

[AA717driver]

This is coming from a Savannah based pilot though.

'Nuff said. TC