Bought my Type and DAMN proud of it!

[General Lee]

I only posted it here to get it out in the open and off of the other threads that the hijackers who don't have any other debate skills can't seem to get off.

I seriously doubt these goons that claim they are Delta pilots are truly Delta pilots since I've rode their Jumpseats many times and they mine as well. Not a tool in the bunch. And, if they brought up my type rating I'd be more than glad to tell them that buying my type has allowed me to live comfortably, have a great career and sock away over a million dollars in assets.

Call that gloating if you want but maybe pointing out the realities of that choice to the d*ckheads that keep trying to distract from the true discussion most are attempting to have on the various threads will make it more obvious.

20 or 30 years worth of your multiple leg day flying would get "old" fast, and the longer you are at a major, the fewer legs you fly (intl widebody) which is nicer. The pay difference is closing, which means the SWA advantage is also. Enjoy BWI to SLC, and then onto LAS, and then ONT. No thanks. And you have plenty of tools and goons who need to throw out pay numbers to try to cover for their extreme fatigue and intra Texas boredom.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Whataburger]

Ahhh, Lubbock. Where "Delta" RJ's fly Delta flights instead of mainline pilots.

LOL, fatigue! I averaged 12 days of work a month last year. Just for you GL, I won't throw out my pay numbers. However, my type that I bought with my own dimes has been paid off.

I won't feed you anymore, go back to your basement and enjoy Super Mario, shining all your buttons, and momma's cookin'.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Kernal Lee

20 or 30 years worth of your multiple leg day flying would get "old" fast, and the longer you are at a major, the fewer legs you fly (intl widebody) which is nicer. The pay difference is closing, which means the SWA advantage is also. Enjoy BWI to SLC, and then onto LAS, and then ONT. No thanks. And you have plenty of tools and goons who need to throw out pay numbers to try to cover for their extreme fatigue and intra Texas boredom.

You don't know much about SWA do you.

Did the Widebody Long Haul gig and it was harder on my body than an 8 leg Texas Two Step or what we refer to out west as the West Coast Watusi. The great thing about doing 14 hour legs in the germ tube at 390 aside from the exposure to the gamma rays and deep vein thrombosis is that once you've done it, it makes a five hour trans-con feel like a ride on the moped to Quickie Mart.

Even with my paltry seniority I can easily get 20+ 3 days or 27+ 4 days that have only two or three legs a day. With a max ground time of 30 minutes each leg unless we have a swap, then it's usually around 1 hour to an hour and a half.

Yeah, that productivity really sucks! Trust me. I have buds at AMR, DAL, UAL, I see their schedules.

"Extreme Fatigue?" Never had to use our industry leading fatigue policy. Our duty and rest standards were much better than the ones the feds had to change because of operations like yours. Don't do any stand-ups or any other archaic BS like that but if I am tired I can pick up the phone and there is a pull for full pay without any "counseling" from the Chiefs.

You keep doing your thing. I'll keep pointing out the obvious. Just like your buddy Roman it amazes me your infatuation with all things Southwest. But, as I told him. I'm flattered.

No matter how much you guys keep trying to tell us this job sucks it sure is rosy from where I am. I guess you suffer from SLPS. "Self Loathing Pilot Syndrome". Kind of a chronic thing in the industry. I saw it happen to one of my Delta Buds right about 2002. Couldn't be happy for us because things for him were miserable.

 

[SLUF4]

You don't know much about SWA do you.

Did the Widebody Long Haul gig and it was harder on my body than an 8 leg Texas Two Step or what we refer to out west as the West Coast Watusi. The great thing about doing 14 hour legs in the germ tube at 390 aside from the exposure to the gamma rays and deep vein thrombosis is that once you've done it, it makes a five hour trans-con feel like a ride on the moped to Quickie Mart.

Even with my paltry seniority I can easily get 20+ 3 days or 27+ 4 days that have only two or three legs a day. With a max ground time of 30 minutes each leg unless we have a swap, then it's usually around 1 hour to an hour and a half.

Yeah, that productivity really sucks! Trust me. I have buds at AMR, DAL, UAL, I see their schedules.

"Extreme Fatigue?" Never had to use our industry leading fatigue policy. Our duty and rest standards were much better than the ones the feds had to change because of operations like yours. Don't do any stand-ups or any other archaic BS like that but if I am tired I can pick up the phone and there is a pull for full pay without any "counseling" from the Chiefs.

You keep doing your thing. I'll keep pointing out the obvious. Just like your buddy Roman it amazes me your infatuation with all things Southwest. But, as I told him. I'm flattered.

No matter how much you guys keep trying to tell us this job sucks it sure is rosy from where I am. I guess you suffer from SLPS. "Self Loathing Pilot Syndrome". Kind of a chronic thing in the industry. I saw it happen to one of my Delta Buds right about 2002. Couldn't be happy for us because things for him were miserable.

someday the tables may turn-that happens a lot in this industry too. All I'm saying is that you guys (SWA pilots on this forum-not the ones I know personally) really are a bunch of gloaters. I don't know what you'll do as SWA continues to morph-hopefully it works out for you.

 

[General Lee]

Ahhh, Lubbock. Where "Delta" RJ's fly Delta flights instead of mainline pilots.

LOL, fatigue! I averaged 12 days of work a month last year. Just for you GL, I won't throw out my pay numbers. However, my type that I bought with my own dimes has been paid off.

I won't feed you anymore, go back to your basement and enjoy Super Mario, shining all your buttons, and momma's cookin'.

My pay numbers will dwarf yours soon, just look at the rates. How about those rumors your management will be looking for pay cuts in your upcoming talks? Delay them as much as possible! That will be SWAPA's plan. And LBB is an RJ route from MEM, but you think otherwise?

Your "family" is so screwed up, and now you are delaying 30 738s, and giving away 88 717s. Talk about disarray. But at least you have 18 days off a month to recover from your 20 leg 4 days.... Enjoy that for 25 more years. That really sux, at any pay rate.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Roomwithaview]

Sluff

Sorry you perceive it as gloating. To me it's putting an end to this BS.

My pay numbers will dwarf yours soon, just look at the rates. How about those rumors your management will be looking for pay cuts in your upcoming talks? Delay them as much as possible! That will be SWAPA's plan. And LBB is an RJ route from MEM, but you think otherwise?

Your "family" is so screwed up, and now you are delaying 30 738s, and giving away 88 717s. Talk about disarray. But at least you have 18 days off a month to recover from your 20 leg 4 days.... Enjoy that for 25 more years. That really sux, at any pay rate.


Bye Bye---General Lee

I want you to be happy, have a great career, make as much money as you can with as much time off as you want. Why can't you want the same for me? Aren't we all in this together? You think tools like Kernal Lee are part of the solution or part of the problem?

 

[Tripower455]

someday the tables may turn-that happens a lot in this industry too. All I'm saying is that you guys (SWA pilots on this forum-not the ones I know personally) really are a bunch of gloaters. I don't know what you'll do as SWA continues to morph-hopefully it works out for you.

How would you respond to the idiotic PFT accusations on this forum, (which is the only place I've ever heard it)?

I took a gamble that paid off.

Things certainly can/will change, but even if SW went tits up today, I am far ahead of where I'd have been had I not taken that gamble. YMMV

 

[Tripower455]

My pay numbers will dwarf yours soon, just look at the rates. How about those rumors your management will be looking for pay cuts in your upcoming talks? Delay them as much as possible! That will be SWAPA's plan. And LBB is an RJ route from MEM, but you think otherwise?

Your "family" is so screwed up, and now you are delaying 30 738s, and giving away 88 717s. Talk about disarray. But at least you have 18 days off a month to recover from your 20 leg 4 days.... Enjoy that for 25 more years. That really sux, at any pay rate.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Oh yay..... Mom let you back on the internet......

 

[SWA Bubba]

If you did 1 leg through Lubbuttocks, it wasn't worth it.


Bye Bye---General Lee

Dude, seriously.

What is your fearful obsession with Lubbock? Did you get your pasty, skinny behind violated there or something? Still have a few lingering bad memories? I don't get it.

As far as flying there goes, we make money flying to Lubbock. That's why we do it. Certainly you've heard that's what the object of operating an airline business is. Hell, we'd fly to your mother's house if we could make money doing it.

And besides, it's actually not bad--you should try it. There's a couple of bars down the street from our crew hotel where all the Texas Tech coeds hang out. And you know what the Texas coed foreplay cry is right? ("Y'all,... I'm sooooo drunk!") Unless, of course, it was the Texas college girls who violated you. Then I could understand your trepidation.

Bubba

 

[General Lee]

Dude, seriously.

What is your fearful obsession with Lubbock? Did you get your pasty, skinny behind violated there or something? Still have a few lingering bad memories? I don't get it.

As far as flying there goes, we make money flying to Lubbock. That's why we do it. Certainly you've heard that's what the object of operating an airline business is. Hell, we'd fly to your mother's house if we could make money doing it.

And besides, it's actually not bad--you should try it. There's a couple of bars down the street from our crew hotel where all the Texas Tech coeds hang out. And you know what the Texas coed foreplay cry is right? ("Y'all,... I'm sooooo drunk!") Unless, of course, it was the Texas college girls who violated you. Then I could understand your trepidation.

Bubba

Making more money is what your company will be focusing on during your upcoming contract talks. I wish you luck with those, but it may be tough since your airline is having a tough time identifying what type of an airline it is. Your merger with AirTran so far has been a flop. All they hype about coming to ATL, and so far you actually reduced the total number of flights. Thanks for that. It appears a large part of the AirTran workforce feels disheartened over the discord between your management, SWAPA, and the Trannies. Having ATL based 737 pilots bid back to 717 to stay in ATL, and then giving them back to Boeing sure upset many. But, we'll take those planes to add seats to all of the cities SWA will be dumping, thanks again.

It's great you love LBB. Not many people in this business are envious of your ability to go there. You might feel like "top gun" there, but you're really not in reality. I much prefer to go to museums in Paris, or tour WWII sites in the Marianas than go to bars in LBB, but hey, that's you. Our pay is rising, and will surpass yours, and the bottom half of your company see the stagnation ahead for you, with curtailed expansion and few future retirements. But, those bars in LBB and MAF are enough for you, which is fantastic. Good for you!



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[dalad]

Dude, seriously.

What is your fearful obsession with Lubbock? Did you get your pasty, skinny behind violated there or something? Still have a few lingering bad memories? I don't get it.

As far as flying there goes, we make money flying to Lubbock. That's why we do it. Certainly you've heard that's what the object of operating an airline business is. Hell, we'd fly to your mother's house if we could make money doing it.

And besides, it's actually not bad--you should try it. There's a couple of bars down the street from our crew hotel where all the Texas Tech coeds hang out. And you know what the Texas coed foreplay cry is right? ("Y'all,... I'm sooooo drunk!") Unless, of course, it was the Texas college girls who violated you. Then I could understand your trepidation.

Bubba

I think one of those ranch "hands" must of got a hold of him and not even have given him a reach around. I don't understand the hype on the PFT either, I could care less. Before I got out of the AF I paid for my ATP to help my chances of being hired. I interviewed at three and got hired by three Majors in 1989. AMR, NWA, and DAL. I chose DAL and got lucky. There's nothing wrong with a layover that you can't turn into a good time. Good God, I was in GEO last week, it doesn't hold a candle to LBB! Not even a coat of paint on that town would improve it. I mean stopping on the way to the hotel because there's a 50 foot anaconda in the road? GMAFB, not all the inernational layovers are caviar and champagne. Just ask a DAL pilot about those layovers in BOM, ACC, DKR, and GEO. I was sitting by the pool in ACC about 2 years ago and heard a mosquito buzz in my ear-you would have thought it was a rattlesnake! No Malaria in LBB!

 

[Roomwithaview]

Hey Kernal Lee

Making more money is what your company will be focusing on during your upcoming contract talks.

For someone who constantly claims to be an industry expert you sure don't know much about airline management. Isn't that what they ALWAY focus on? But more so ESPECIALLY when it comes to contract talks. I guess you weren't paying attention when you guys had to vote in your concessionary contract.

I wish you luck with those, but it may be tough since your airline is having a tough time identifying what type of an airline it is.

Thank you! And, as always with me, I hope we can ALL get better pay and work rules with each and every contract we negotiate. Your welcome for keeping the bar high for the last ten years while the industry has been in the crapper.

Your merger with AirTran so far has been a flop. All they hype about coming to ATL, and so far you actually reduced the total number of flights. Thanks for that. It appears a large part of the AirTran workforce feels disheartened over the discord between your management, SWAPA, and the Trannies. Having ATL based 737 pilots bid back to 717 to stay in ATL, and then giving them back to Boeing sure upset many. But, we'll take those planes to add seats to all of the cities SWA will be dumping, thanks again.

Yet to be seen. From what I understand everything that is happening is what management had planned from the get go which is why I never bought into the SLI. However, it is what it is and it is now water under the bridge. Both groups overwhelmingly supported their respective TA's so the majority were definitely on board with the master plan.

It's great you love LBB. Not many people in this business are envious of your ability to go there. You might feel like "top gun" there, but you're really not in reality.

Someone once asked Willie Sutton why he robbed banks. Google his response and you'll get your answer on Lubbock.

I much prefer to go to museums in Paris, or tour WWII sites in the Marianas than go to bars in LBB, but hey, that's you

I like Museums in Paris, WWII sites, cruises, diving the barrier reef, visiting all the continents (with the exception of Antarctica) and I've had the opportunity to do that to my hearts desire. Isn't that what a great schedule with awesome vacation and flight benefits allows all of us to do?

Our pay is rising, and will surpass yours,

I hope so. That will make for some pretty fruitful negotiations. It's great that you guys are finally catching back up from the concessionary contract you hung around our necks for the last ten years.

and the bottom half of your company see the stagnation ahead for you, with curtailed expansion and few future retirements. But, those bars in LBB and MAF are enough for you, which is fantastic. Good for you!

I wouldn't start whistling through the Southwest graveyard just yet. We sure seem to be positioned well to weather the ongoing economical storm that has saddled all of us for the past ten years. Regarding your downplay of our RON cities the beer is colder in Midland and Lubbock than any I've had in Europe but to each his own.

:beer:

 

[Dash Power]

It sucks getting old but at least the wisdom can bring you peace.

Psych 101: One who constantly repeats how good their life is compared to others are only trying to convince themselves.

I believe the average age of maturity on threads like these is about eight.

 

[dalad]

Could we just put GL and Wave in a room together so one could yell " SCUMBAG SELLOUT!, and the other could yell "LUBBOCK, LUBBOCK!". We are all airline pilots, period. I haven't met a SWA pilot on a layover that wasn't nice and good to talk to at the bar. I remember sitting at the lounge in the Doubletree Airport in SEA, and the bar maid asking my F/O and I were with SWA. When we said no, she said "no 123 for you". So this SWA pilot overhears and buys us 2 rounds and we just paid him back.

 

[Roomwithaview]

Could we just put GL and Wave in a room together so one could yell " SCUMBAG SELLOUT!, and the other could yell "LUBBOCK, LUBBOCK!". We are all airline pilots, period. I haven't met a SWA pilot on a layover that wasn't nice and good to talk to at the bar. I remember sitting at the lounge in the Doubletree Airport in SEA, and the bar maid asking my F/O and I were with SWA. When we said no, she said "no 123 for you". So this SWA pilot overhears and buys us 2 rounds and we just paid him back.

I jumpseat on DAL frequently and I can't tell you how many times the crews have bent over backwards for me. We're all in this together. I want you to succeed and as Tony told Phil there's enough money for all of us.