Both USAPA, APA Reject Scanners. ALPA, Not So Much.

[Flyprdu]

I mean seriously, did we not see this coming?

Dear Members:
The recent policy decision by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) to require that all persons, including pilots, be screened by Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) machines and/or highly intrusive pat-down searches is the latest change in a long line of ever-increasing security measures that unnecessarily frustrate and burden airline pilots.
Instead of merely complaining to the media about the changed procedures or writing to you with advice on the security screening options that you already know, I decided to try to change the U.S. government’s decisions. I have told our members and representatives on numerous occasions that your union’s influence in government, legislative, and regulatory matters is based upon our access to the highest levels of this government, and that access is due to ALPA’s long-term commitment to provide member expertise and dedicated professional staff to find solutions, instead of merely making media noise.
Last Thursday I contacted the White House with our concerns. On Friday evening, ALPA staff and I met with the TSA to present our members’ serious concerns with AIT screenings and pat-down frisking and, more importantly, to offer solutions to t.... blah blah blah... vague, unverifiable bullsh*t... blah, blah, blah... no real opinion.... blah, blah, blah... keep paying your dues, CREWPass is right around the corner... ...workers and ALPA members including the current security dilemma that we face.

 

[Metro752]

Screw him, what does that dude Moak say?

 

[CFIT]

Screw him, what does that dude Moak say?

He says "Send in your money, scope is for sale".

 

[Metro752]

Rats.

 

[the palm]

Go Lee Moak!!! ASA needs more RJ's!!!

 

[Skippy]

Alpa is not going to rock thebus and criticize the policy since they desperatel want crewpass and want the gvmnt/ airlines to pay it

How can alpa represent majors and regionals equally?
Name 3 nonsafety related items that benefits alpa members in praters term? Exactly
Now name 5 items that were against a majority of its members wishes or were never gotten - hell name 10 ( 5 is too easy)
Prater is a joke and alpa is a joke
Age 65
New ft/dt
Hr requirement for airline fos
Crewpass
Gojet
.....'insert ur favorite

 

[flyboyzii]

Alpa is not going to rock thebus and criticize the policy since they desperatel want crewpass and want the gvmnt/ airlines to pay it

How can alpa represent majors and regionals equally?
Name 3 nonsafety related items that benefits alpa members in praters term? Exactly
Now name 5 items that were against a majority of its members wishes or were never gotten - hell name 10 ( 5 is too easy)
Prater is a joke and alpa is a joke
Age 65
New ft/dt
Hr requirement for airline fos
Crewpass
Gojet
.....'insert ur favorite

Thread drift......
ALPO didn't cause GoJet. TSA pilots voting 'no' did. In their defense, they were voting on a horrible contract with an extension. But, secure the planes first.....duh!! Flame away

Back to the topic at hand.

 

[Abernathy]

Is Lee going to do something about it? Senate now wants to make these things required by 2013: http://blog.seattlepi.com/airlinereporter/archives/214522.asp

If ALPA does not work to get pilots an exemption, then we need a recall election for every executive position. Strongly worded e-mails don't mean squat. What will ultimately have to happen is for every pilot to boycott the scanners, should they become required, shutting down the system until they make an exception for flight crews.

 

[CX880]

Thread drift......
ALPO didn't cause GoJet. TSA pilots voting 'no' did. In their defense, they were voting on a horrible contract with an extension. But, secure the planes first.....duh!! Flame away

Back to the topic at hand.

ALPA is TSA pilots, they are ALPA. Actually what caused gojets was the idiotic scope restriction of AA pilots forcing regionals to start seperate certificates if they wanted to fly 50+ seaters for anyone else. The irony is that Tsa doesn't even fly the AE planes for them anymore yet it completely changed the future for TSA. Most likely will shut down if they can't get anymore 50 seat flying. Too bad.

 

[ePilot22]

ALPA is TSA pilots, they are ALPA. Actually what caused gojets was the idiotic people, like myself willing to fly, allowing regionals to start seperate certificates if they wanted to fly 50+ seaters for anyone else. The irony is that I'm so stupid I don't realize that is was me that completely changed the future for TSA. Most likely will shut down if they can't get anymore 50 seat flying. Too bad.

At least tell it like it is.




eP.

 

[CX880]

At least tell it like it is.




eP.

In a world without reality, yes. Because pilots that came after the fact, affected the events that happened before they even existed.

 

[ePilot22]

In a world with reality, yes. Because pilots that came after the fact, affected the events that happened before they even existed.

You'd make good fish bait.




eP.

 

[Speedtape]

ALPA didn't change the age 60 rule! That freight train was already coming down the tracks in Congress. I bet 50% of airline pilots were glad it did.

 

[atlcrashpad]

He says "Send in your money, scope is for sale".

Quote of the week.....
Errthang is fo sale.... if'n duh price is rite....

yeahhhh bouyyyyy.......

 

[COOPERVANE]

Here is a good one. Muslim women wearing a burka or hijab are being told they are EXEMPT from AIT SCANNERS and TSA pat downs. Against their religion. No way to get my blood to boil more.

Un...freakin.... believable!!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cair...99s-head-neck/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627489/posts ___________http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627489/posts

 

[rfa]

Here is a good one. Muslim women wearing a burka or hijab are being told they are EXEMPT from AIT SCANNERS and TSA pat downs. Against their religion. No way to get my blood to boil more.

Un...freakin.... believable!!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cair...99s-head-neck/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627489/posts ___________http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627489/posts

Wow

 

[BOX OFFICE]

Wow

Not true. TSA stated yesterday that religion will not be a valid excuse. No grope, no fly.

 

[Draginass]

ALPA is a bunch of worthless twits. Don't depend on them for anything except selling out to the gubment and managements.

 

[WayBack]

Not true. TSA stated yesterday that religion will not be a valid excuse. No grope, no fly.

This is true, but wait till the ACLU jumps in and says it's a violation of their rights.


On a side note, ALPA is looking into branch out and start representing wheel chair pushers and ramp agents.

 

[DGdaPilot]

Funny. Looks like ALPA keeping a low profile and concentrating on working at the table Washington politicians and Pistole paid off.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/1119/Pilots-to-be-exempt-from-airport-scanners-intrusive-pat-downs

 

[WayBack]

Funny. Looks like ALPA keeping a low profile and concentrating on working at the table Washington politicians and Pistole paid off.

ALPA is a spineless government hack.

The Airline Pilots Association, International (ALPA), which represents nearly 53,000 pilots at 38 US and Canadian airlines, notes that its members “are trustworthy by definition of their employment and responsibilities.”

Trustworthy? Is he kidding? Besides all the back stabbing pilots do to each other in the crew room, you also have those trustworthy pilots who try to go to work drunk off their butts....Delta pilots come to mind.
Then you have Mesa pilots who steal iPhones from passengers while in line at security.
Prater is a putz. All of ALPO's hard work on CrewPASS finally goes into full force, thanks to the decisions on the TSA.