Bose X

[WestSide]

I doubt this is true, but a friend of mine said that anybody with a CFI license can get the Bose X headset for $900. Anybody know if this is true? I did not see anything on their website.

 

[7574EVER]

For what it's worth I think I've heard the same rumor awhile back. Not sure if it's true though. The best way to find out would be to drop them an e-mail or give them a call. Let us know what you find out!!!

 

[Salukipilot4590]

I too have heard of the CFI discount...dont know where to look or who to ask though...

You could get a $900 Bose or a $850 LSm1...

I'm going witht the Mach One...

 

[be-400xpdriver]

Or you get a set of bose qc2 with the uflymike for 500.

 

[mainiac]

Or you get a set of bose qc2 with the uflymike for 500.

Absolutely! Sold my X on Ebay, bought the QC2/UflyMike, best profit I ever made!

 

[spg2bmd]

sure!!!!

 

[DoinTime]

Or you get a set of bose qc2 with the uflymike for 500.

The QC2 is nowhere near the same quality, comfort, or performance as the X. I own both and the QC2 is less than a cheap knock off of the X.

 

[CFI2766]

I don't think it's legal to fly with the QC2. Has it been TSO'd properly?

 

[be-400xpdriver]

I don't think it's legal to fly with the QC2. Has it been TSO'd properly?

from uflymike.com

12.03.2007

We will soon publish an article being written by an AA pilot and attorney addressing TSOs and the use of non-TSO'd headsets. He starts his article with the following:

In early 2007, a few FAA inspectors surprised many airline pilots when they encouraged at least two major airlines to prohibit their pilots from using a popular but non-TSO approved headset. These inspectors did so because they believed that federal aviation regulations (“FARs”) require airline pilots to use only TSO approved models. Many other FAA inspectors and pilots, including several pilot-lawyers, disagreed with this interpretation so I asked the FAA’s Office of the Chief Counsel to resolve the dispute. On October 12, 2007, the FAA published its response. It states that an airline pilot’s use of a non-approved headset to supplement the operation of an aircraft already equipped in accordance with the FARs would not be considered a regulatory violation. In addition, the regulations contain “no specific requirement that aircraft operating under part 121 be equipped with headsets or that flight crewmembers use headsets produced under a TSOA.” If an aircraft manufacturer needs to limit a pilot’s choices of supplemental communication equipment, it can do so through the aircraft’s original type design certificate or subsequent amendments to it. Because the response goes on to explain, among other things, the requirements a manufacturer must meet if it chooses to equip its aircraft solely with active noise reduction (“ANR”) headsets, some FAA inspectors misinterpreted the response. My discussions with other pilots, airline managers, and aircraft and aviation headset manufacturers reveal similar confusion. This article attempts to eliminate that confusion. To understand the FAA’s legal position and the connection between communication equipment used in part 121 aircraft and TSO certification, we should first establish a proper interpretive framework.

Mitch Whatley
Attorney at Law

Watch this webpage for the complete article! It will be extremely valuable for commercial pilots to be familiar with the original FAA letter and the follow-up clarifications provided in this article.




[FONT=Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif]10.25.2007

The FAA has responded to a Feb 2007 request for clarification on the issue of whether the FAA requires pilots operating 14 CFR, Part 121 to use TSO'd headsets and/or microphones.

The link to that document on the FAA website is provided at the end of this date's posting.

In short, the FAA response is NO, with some caveats. Here are the highlights:

* There is no specific requirement that aircraft operating under 14 CFR part 121 be equipped with headsets or that flight crewmembers use headsets produced under a TSOA.

* Use of a non-approved headset [one that was not certificated with the aircraft certification] to supplement the operation of an aircraft equipped in accordance those regulations would not be considered a regulatory violation.

* A manufacturer is not required to install flightcrew headsets in an aircraft certificated in accordance with part 25. The manufacturer may choose to meet applicable airworthiness standards through the installation of other equipment (e.g. speakers and microphones). The type design for a particular aircraft therefore may or may not include the installation of a headset that meets a TSO.

* When a manufacturer delivers an aircraft that meets applicable airworthiness standards, yet is not equipped with headsets (often at the request of a customer), the use of individual headsets by the flightcrew would not render the aircraft unairworthy provided the aircraft continues to be equipped in accordance with its type design.

* Aircraft equipped [certificated under Part 25] with ANR headsets must use a type that does not depend solely on battery power for operation.

* The regulations do not prohibit an air carrier from specifying in its manual that flight crewmembers use only specific headset models when operating an aircraft



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[DrewBlows]

You can get a 10% discount on a BOSE headset if you are a NAFI member.

Here's the literature.

BOSE CFI discount

 

[Salukipilot4590]

I totally meant to say Zulu.... Lightspeed Zulu...

Too much booze...

 

[tathepilot]

Lightspeed Zulu...

Very cool headset..

 

[BoDEAN]

For an Embraer 145 -- What would you recommended? Lightspeed Zulu or bose qc2 with the uflymike?

 

[rightseatjocky]

I use the Qc-2 also. I love it. Lightweight and the sound quality is so awesome. I love the fact that I can plug in my mp 3 player and no one knows it. Rocking out while in cruise, what more could you ask for.
Doing snoopy dance

 

[DoinTime]

I use the Qc-2 also. I love it. Lightweight and the sound quality is so awesome. I love the fact that I can plug in my mp 3 player and no one knows it. Rocking out while in cruise, what more could you ask for.
Doing snoopy dance

You could ask for a spiky hairdo and a nice campy backpack.

 

[WestSide]

Does anybody make an adaptor for an ipod that you can use with a any headset?

 

[PreContact]

I use the Qc-2 also. I love it. Lightweight and the sound quality is so awesome. I love the fact that I can plug in my mp 3 player and no one knows it. Rocking out while in cruise, what more could you ask for.
Doing snoopy dance

How about brining some professionalism back to the industry and not listening to your music while at the controls...thanks

 

[Striptyler]

How about brining some professionalism back to the industry and not listening to your music while at the controls...thanks

How about bringin some professionalism back to the road and not listening to your music while at the wheel...thanks.

Every retired pilot from Pan am, AMR etc that i have ever met, whishes they had the technology we have now. Listening to the am stations was a pain... or so they say. Of course, i guess it's better to be chatting about the FA last night than listening to tunes..

 

[BoDEAN]

I use the Qc-2 also. I love it. Lightweight and the sound quality is so awesome. I love the fact that I can plug in my mp 3 player and no one knows it. Rocking out while in cruise, what more could you ask for.
Doing snoopy dance

Any idea how this headset works on an Embraer 145?

 

[Gator1999]

Bose X = Expensive POS

I bought the Bose X headsets and had problems with the mic plug in the Citation X. It seems that Bose decided to take it upon themselves to reinvent the mic plug and when plugged into the aircraft it reseats a bushing in the jack causing the plug to not make contact with the jack. What a pain...and an annoyance to have a useless $1000 pair of headsets. I ended up selling them to some dude on ebay and went out and bought the QC2 with the Uflymike. The quality of ANR is nowhere near what it was with the X, but works well and serves a double purpose so that I can use them as regular headsets to listen to my Ipod on my inevitable airline to and from work.