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350DRIVER said:
I guess that would really depend on the type of equipment, situation, type and extent of emergency, circumstances, runway, conditions, etc, etc,....

Of course, and I'm assuming the situation is life or death, so what happens to the plane doesn't matter, so long as everyone walks away.

I am sure that some situation may or may not require a gear up landing, just hopefully I will not have to make that call in the "real world"....

Me either! :D

There also may be more opportunity for big ($$$) damage to bottom of aircraft

The airplane is insured.

Now, don't get me wrong, I do not suggest destroying an airplane for no good reason, I'm just saying that if there was a fire, or something like that, my first concern is saving myself, not the plane.

The reason I reply with that first comment is that I find some pilots first think of the aircraft, then of themselves. That is backwards IMHO.
 
No info huh?

I agree, if there's a dire situation, put it down in whatever way feasable. I just didn't see any smoke, they called off the trucks, no evac etc. Just was very curious about the entire situation.

There's alot to learn from the decisions other people make, good or bad, especially in airplanes.

C'mon BlueRidgers, find out the skinny for us.
 
a 2,500 hour airliner expert gave us wisdom on landing under control...

1. Since when is running off the runway considered 'under control'?

2. And we have people suggesting that landing gear-up may be solution?


3. Please tell me you're not for real.
Sometimes landing off airport with both featherd and secured and the landing gear up IS the last act of control. Oh that's right, small planes always take the cornfield and all airliners on fire (ahem, VALUEJET) always land where there is a fire truck.

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001211X11010&ntsbno=CHI98FA349&akey=1
 
Alright folks,

this has gotten out of control.
Its a F'n RJ, not the space shuttle.

Put the wheels down and land ASAP. It aint brain surgery.

chris-sakes, you guys are going off the end of runways, bellying it up to skid to a stop (ever hear of brakes).

declare an emergency, land on the nearest suitable runway, shut it off, go home have a beer and dont talk to CNN.
 
Amen Gulfstream,

I feel like I'm sitting in the Embry Riddle pilot lounge listening to people spout of moronic theories. We don't know what happened, leave it at that. If anyone has any info, let's hear it. When you start discussing landing gear up in an airliner for more friction....reality is no loner with us.
 
The string got out of hand because a few people with very little experience started spouting theories instead of "listening up on the frequency before keying your mike".

I think if I was working on my CFI and the subject was the emergency landing of a jet, I would probably try to learn what I could and then ask questions, not try to comment like an expert.

An "engine fire" and "smoke in the cockpit" are two entirely, entirely, e-n-t-i-r-e-l-y different categories of emergency.

An engine fire in a transport-category aircraft is handled by climbing to a pre-established minimum altitude, performing memory items (if any) and then systematically performing a checklist, (including shutting down the engine, firing one or more extinguishers, and securing the engine) followed by a well-briefed return to the airport, or the most suitable airport, and it may or may not require an evacuation.

A fire in the cockpit, or smoke in the cockpit is an entirely different animal, and the goal is to get the airplane on the ground ASAP before you become incapacitated. Hopefully, you can run the checklists, but the most important thing is to keep it under control and get in on the ground while you are still able, period. Same with a cargo fire.

As for intentionally landing a jet gear up on a hard surface runway? That is for light airplanes, bubba.
 
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JJay said:
Why didn't the crew just eject and let the passengers sort it out?

Hah thats what I hear the justice department pilots do in an emergency.
 
Ty Webb said:
The string got out of hand because a few people with very little experience started spouting theories instead of "listening up on the frequency before keying your mike".

Yep, I admit it, that was me.

Just tossing out random thoughts, don't get your panties in a wad over it.

I think if I was working on my CFI and the subject was the emergency landing of a jet, I would probably try to learn what I could and then ask questions, not try to comment like an expert.

I did not jump into the thread to learn, and I really don't have any interest in flying a jet.

In my defense, I did say in my original post that it was my own uninformed opinion, so I never claimed to be any kind of expert.

As for intentionally landing a jet gear up on a hard surface runway? That is for light airplanes, bubba.

Ahh well, I never claimed to have flown jets either. :)
 
KingAirer said:
Looks like Ms. Jail Bait to me! :D

Ahh, she's over 18, that's all that counts, right? :D
 
KingAirer said:
Looks like Ms. Jail Bait to me! :D

Wow....you know, now that you mention it... I HOPE she's over 18. Either way... I withdraw the question, she looks younger than I first thought at my initial look.

Sorry for the interruption..... carry on with the need more coffee, smoking, engine fire, gear up, wings wobbling ejection over a cornfield landing in a jet conversation.
 
FL717 said:
Wow....you know, now that you mention it... I HOPE she's over 18. Either way... I withdraw the question, she looks younger than I first thought at my initial look.

She was 19 when that picture was taken... She's 23 or 24 now...

Old news I'm afraid...
 
Ever notice how those herpes commercials on TV make it seem like it's not such a big deal to have bumps on the nads for life?
 
metrodriver said:
FL717, where and when did that saudi bird go picking wurms?

Not sure yet about that. I got alot of these type pictures, and I don't have the story for most of them until after I change my avatar, then someone will see it and PM me, or post a comment with info on the picture. I just changed this one recently and no one yet has offered the "rest of the story".
 
mullet said:
I don't think having her as you avrtar will win her back.
sorry.

She is old news in that the picture is 5 years old. She was 19 at the time it was taken in 1997.
 
haha FL717...I always wondered what happened to those old planes when they put them out to "PASTURE". That one looks like an old horse out in a field grazing.
 

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