BKL (ASEL) Departure 'O Death

[Metro752]

When I was doing my primary training, my CFI told me he had this exact same thing happen to him out of BKL on a cold winter night, and he didn't have engine problems, but he was almost imagining hearing the engine run rough.

 

[machaf]

Remarks do not get forwarded to ATC. Tell them on the radio.

In my area they do. MSP center. We put what approaches we want to do in the remarks section. They clear us for that.

Also the local approach controllers want "single engine ILS" in remarks when we are doing SE Approaches so they have space properly.

Maybe its just a local thing here...

 

[aerobaticspilot]

Haha its becuase cle center and approach have no idea what they are doing... just say you cant go out over the water.... they should work with you and if they dont.... go vfr

 

[minitour]

Haha its becuase cle center and approach have no idea what they are doing... just say you cant go out over the water.... they should work with you and if they dont.... go vfr

VFR out of Lakefront is an even worse option. It's a tremendous headache.

If they're departing 24R/L out of BKL, you either bust the Bravo (cuz they won't clear you through/in it right away due to arrivals from the North turning Base just west of BKL) or they send you over the lake...it's not much, but it's beyond glide distance at that altitude (the shelf is decently low too...2000'? haven't seen a TAC/SAC in a while).

If they're departing 6R/L out of BKL, they want you at 2,000' and a heading that takes you right through CGF's Delta. Now, the catch is...you're not inside the Class B airspace (you're under it) and you can remain clear of the Class D airspace AND class B on a more direct easterly heading. Lots of people forget/don't realize you don't have to talk to the CLE controllers (and therefore listen to their "xyz heading" instruction) if you're not going in their airspace.

Personally...I prefer to go IFR and tell them I need higher and/or a turn towards shore. If I've GOT to go VFR (equipment "situations"), I'll prolly just talk to CGF and get to transition thier class D...but depending on what's going on there (Flight Options) it can be busy too.

Really...we need a VFR Corridor there. Just one leading from the west side of CGF/east side of BKL all the way south down to ACO (Akron VOR/DME). Would be much simpler.

IMHO

-mini