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LexAir

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Does anyone know anything about the Boston operation and schedules, etc... Day trips vs. only 4 days?
How long is training for off the street Captains? Where is training? Do they pay you in training or for your hotel? Do they own 1900 sims or do they rent them out somewhere else?
Is the training contract enforced?
If someone in Boston has gotten hired by them please send private message.
Thanks for the info.!
 
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Stay away!

Not many/any? day trips. Very inefficient schedules. You will spend a lot of your trip flow sitting at the overnight or sitting in Boston.
Example Trip flows:
63F: Friday-Sunday= fly two hours, spend Friday, Saturday and Saturday night at the outstation, fly two hours back on Sunday.
85: Crew call at 1855, fly 1.9 hours, overnight over sixteen hours, fly 1.7 hours the next day and duty off at 1500.
87: Crew call at 1120, fly 1.9, overnight for over 14 hours, fly 1.7 back and duty off at 0600.
etc, etc, etc...you will not fly 90 hours/month at Big Sky
Crew Scheduling is reactive, not proactive and a total mess. You usually have to submit more than one extra flying form before you finally get paid for extra flying. Story time: New FO finishes IOE. He's told to stand-by while skeds works him onto the line. FO sits by the phone everyday waiting to find out what his schedule will be. Seven days go by before he is put onto the line. Later, when said FO asks skeds for his seven moving days, they inform him that those seven days he was sitting by the phone were his moving days.
Reserve lines are not commutable.
No CASS so commuting has been a nightmare this summer.
Big Sky has yet to pay out the promised hiring bonus to anyone.
Newest Street Captains have been flying in the right seat this past month.
Big Sky will take out MA state taxes from your pay regardless of where you live. Payroll has yet to figure this out.
I don't know if they are enforcing the training contract.
Training: 3.5 weeks of ground school. Streets get paid as FO's during ground school. Rat-Hole-tel paid for with two to a room. Creepy Jerry at the front desk is no extra charge. There is no syllabus for class so don't bother asking for one. Indoc is instructor reading the Op and Standard manuals straight off the laptop's word document. Huge homework covering the Op Specs pertaining to the company passed out and takes hours and hours to complete if you do it by yourself. In some classes this homework is taken up, some classes it's graded in class, and in some classes they forget about it entirely. Most of systems class was spent telling us what was wrong in the various systems books. Instructors swap out depending on their individual schedules, but with no syllabus, they never know what's been covered already so there is a lot of skipping around and last minute..."Oh we forgot to cover" Everything is done at the last minute so you won't know what your oral or sim schedule is until the end. There is a constant threat of an exam over memory items. Some classes take this exam, some don't. Hotel still provided until end of Sim is eight days with one day off around day five or so. Two different sim locations in the Denver area. You'll go to one or the other. After sim you have aircraft training back in Billings. A/C training takes forever because you have to wait for a plane to be too broke to go to the overnight, but not too broke for you to train on. Training will try to make you stay in Billings the entire time...even if you don't do anything for a week. CA did 38-40 hours of IOE in Billings and then sent to Boston. (Brilliant!) FOs did their IOE in BOS.
I curse the day I answered the phone.
 
No wonder their Cincy base has taken forever to start up. I heard it has been pushed back now to a year. Groovedog, any news on the Cincy base?
 
But the good news is Paul Foley is your CEO.....sarcasm intended.
 
Rumor Mill now says Salt Lake will open before cincy. October? Don't know. Big Sky is trying to grab more BOS EAS and there is no EAS in Salt Lake unless they plan to move the BIL EAS stuff out to Salt Lake. Second rumor: Mgmt is sundowning BIL. No timetable on that.

Regions Air lessons Big Sky better figure out quick: If you don't meet your EAS obligations, the DOT will put those contracts out for rebid. Once this happens, you can expect to lose ALL your EAS. Then, some Fed who is not your POI will sit down with all your manuals and find a reason to shut you down. Regions Air was shut down over discrepancies found in the training manual which had been approved by the Feds in '96 when the airline began operations.

I know my spelling sucks; but I've got the get the yard mowed before the wif gets back from work.
 
Lord please don't let the DOT put any of those lines out for bid. Gulfstream International will pick them up. No one can bid less than GIA seeing as how the airline is subsidized by a bunch of dickweeds who pay the company 30+g to fly right seat.

GIA was recently awarded these same kind of lines that the DOT put out there and will now be flying through CLT often. :angryfire
 
Thanks for the reply, I work at one of the proposed Cincy base destination cities and the boss wont tell us anything. In fact there is little communicated to us employees about what is going on period. We just get rumors here and there... Thanks
 
Hmm... Thought about going to the career fair in Boston but in the end opted against it. Looks like a pretty good decision. I guess there is a reason people look for street captains.

-Goose
 

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