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Super 80 said:
After the lamb is served, it is this bread, called the Bread of Salvation, that Jesus uses to say is His body. The figurative connection could be made that the Bread is His flesh, but since eating human flesh is a sin, it is more likely that Jesus is saying His body is a vehicle for Salvation. Likewise with the cup of wine. This is the third cup, called the Cup of Redemption. Is Jesus saying this wine is turned into His blood or that His blood is Redemption?

Super80 how would you respond to the tenet of 'transubstantiation' where the Catholics believe that through the Eucharist, the act of Communion, that the bread and wine do in fact become the body and blood and Christ.

Not just figuratively but literally.

I suppose it's just a matter of faith isn't it?

See, this is really a problem for me. How can you pick and choose what concepts in the Bible are literal (Christ rising from the dead) and what concepts are figurative (the bread isn't *really* His flesh).

The way I see it (saw it) you either accept the Bible at it's word or you don't.
 
Some codes that were found in relation to Sept 11... coincidence? I have no idea... But i do know a few good jokes if we want to turn this into a joke telling thread :-)

http://www.biblecodedigest.com/page.php/50

World Trade Center

-Powerful Destructive Sound, As If From An Airliner
-New York. They Accompany the Unfortunate Who Are Stricken In It. The Worshippers Are Gathering Around God.
-Exact crossing of September 11 and 2001 near center of NY code (734296 vs. 734286)
-And Your Son is In the Destruction
-In the morning
-Firemen
-Devastation
-Terror
-Grief
-Cruelty
-Crying
-Death
 
mar said:
Super80 how would you respond to the tenet of 'transubstantiation' where the Catholics believe that through the Eucharist, the act of Communion, that the bread and wine do in fact become the body and blood and Christ.

Not just figuratively but literally.

I suppose it's just a matter of faith isn't it?

See, this is really a problem for me. How can you pick and choose what concepts in the Bible are literal (Christ rising from the dead) and what concepts are figurative (the bread isn't *really* His flesh).

The way I see it (saw it) you either accept the Bible at it's word or you don't.

Mar,

While I am always interested in Super 80's answers, since he has spent far more time and energy on the "scholarly" aspect of study than I have, I think I can give you an answer.

One easy tenet of Bible study is this: "If the plain sense makes sense, then don't make any onther sense."

Clearly, Christ was not saying that the bread was his physical body, since he was still in his pre-ressurection form. He wasn't saying that this body should be eaten, and never said that future events of the Lord's Supper would trigger an event of transubstantiation. If it did, that would be the aforementioned eating of human flesh; a sin.

In Bible study, we look for the clearest meaning possible. Often, the meaning is not literal, but figurative. All of the parables fit this format, establishing Christ's use of figurative speech as examples of the point He is making. The use of the bread and the wine are clearly in line with this familiar format.

Since Christ did not take the extra step of saying that the bread and wine would in the future bercome His actual body and blood, this is a non-Biblical interpretation and doctrine devised by Men.
 
THEY use the same code to send encrypted chemtrail orders throught the business page of the NY Times.

I swear to God.

Check it out...
 
Ahhh, BBQ....

Did the first grilling of the season last night. Salmon. Hmmm Fish on Easter, is that sacreligious? I kinda hope so. Anyway, I found that I'd left the tank shutoff valve on since the last BBQ sometime last fall. Still gas left though, guess those burner valves are more leakproof than you might expect. Anyway, served the salmon and immediately discovered that I'd grossly underestimated cooking time. Returned said fish to the inferno, second attempt was much better. Out of practice ... who knew there were currency issues with grilling. Maybe I need to devise a grilling simulator to maintain proiFISHency throughout the winter months.
 
IT JUST CAME TO ME!!!!


Bread is the body of christ.... It is sacreligious to eat human flesh.


We shall all go on Atkins!


BAN THE CARBS!!! BAN THE CARBS!!!!!
 
Timebuilder said:
Mar,

While I am always interested in Super 80's answers, since he has spent far more time and energy on the "scholarly" aspect of study than I have, I think I can give you an answer.

One easy tenet of Bible study is this: "If the plain sense makes sense, then don't make any onther sense."

Clearly, Christ was not saying that the bread was his physical body, since he was still in his pre-ressurection form. He wasn't saying that this body should be eaten, and never said that future events of the Lord's Supper would trigger an event of transubstantiation. If it did, that would be the aforementioned eating of human flesh; a sin.

In Bible study, we look for the clearest meaning possible. Often, the meaning is not literal, but figurative. All of the parables fit this format, establishing Christ's use of figurative speech as examples of the point He is making. The use of the bread and the wine are clearly in line with this familiar format.

Since Christ did not take the extra step of saying that the bread and wine would in the future bercome His actual body and blood, this is a non-Biblical interpretation and doctrine devised by Men.

The best explanation would be the simple explanation from the Lord Himself:

Luke 22:
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

There is no secret or mystery or type. He instituted the Lord's Supper as a reminder of Him and His work on the cross, and the covenant of grace we have received through His sacrifice.

There are mysteries in the Bible. Some were hid from the Jews in the OT and revealed now in the NT, some are hid from us and will be revealed to those in the next age. To try to determine what these codes are and what they mean is pointless, and there is no instruction for us to try, God will reveal them in His own time.

Ephesians 3
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
 
Out of practice ... who knew there were currency issues with grilling. Maybe I need to devise a grilling simulator to maintain proiFISHency throughout the winter months.

The question, of course, is whether or not the use of a BBQ simulator is acceptable to the FBA (Federal Barbecue Administration) administrator, or whether you'd be better off with a BTD (Barbecue Training Device).

In either case, you might bcome proFISHient. :D
 
Dash8 said:
once the minute fifth, that being the fifth minute be reached, removest thou thy pink fishy goodness from thine grill, and consume it

LOL!!! The last part of that sounds like something I'd like to do to.... never mind!:D

SK:cool:
 

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