Best Regional

[PacoPollo]

Thats why this industry is the way it is now.....

 

[BRA]

colgan air will ask for a doctors note from what i have heard. I agree, all regionals are basically equal though.

 

[rightrudder]

I can verify that upgrade time is that. I actually met guys while doing my interview that were doing upgrade training. They had been there anywhere from a year and a half to two years. The one FO I met who has been there 9 months has his flight time and starts upgrade training in January, but like I said who knows what will happen when my turn comes around, it could totally reverse????

Once your deliveries of new aircraft stop, so will the upgrades. The uprade time now will not be the upgrade time once your deliveries stop. You do know that you only have a limited number of aircraft your company will operate, don't you?

Let's say you now operate 90 aircraft. You will receive 10 more. those 10 aircraft will provide about 50 captain upgrades, then boom, no others except for attrition. When you are 400 numbers away from upgrade, it takes a lot of attrition to make it into the left seat. Good luck.

 

[jetexas]

Good luck with that 14 month upgrade. Mesaba told me 2 years in 1999. Still waiting.

I thought my company was the only one that did that??? I was told, in 98, that I would "upgrade to the jet in 2 years and be at AA in 4 years". I'm going to be a 7 year FO pretty soon.
If I were a new guy starting out, I would try for XJT. I have friends there and they seem to be happy. CAL will be calling back their furloughs and bringing in flowthroughs next year. There will be movement at XJT for that reason. It doesn't seem to be that bad of a place to be.

 

[XJTAv8r]

Good luck with that 14 month upgrade. Mesaba told me 2 years in 1999. Still waiting.

Are you unable to hold Saab captain or are you holding out for BAC Jet captain?

 

[General Lee]

If I had to start over I would go to Expressjet. I think they have great opportunities to get bigger, (like expanding in LA) and they just got an improvement in their payscale and workrules. I think Eagle may be a bad opportunity, due to the 8 year upgrade and all of the AA flowbacks coming onboard. Skywest has good West Coast domiciles (besides ORD), but they will soon be flying A318s for Brasilia wages. (Whatever it takes to get more planes, and Gerry Atkins knows that!)


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Russ]

Who is Gerry Atkins? Is he related to Jerry Atkins? If recent history at other airlines is a predictor of things to come at DAL, your shrinking towards a mediocre pay scale as well. You just don't know it yet, or refuse to acknowledge it. That billion dollar cut isn't the last. I wish it was for your sake, but I doubt it.

 

[amcnd]

Things change so fast 5 years ago Eagle was the place to go Huge RJ order and the flow to AA. Now its the flowback and the stoping to the jet orders. Until AA recalls. Then everyone will wnat o come to Eagle because they will have to hire 400+ pilots over night. Go were you want to live and has a stable code share partner. What looks good now may not look good in 5 years.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Who is Gerry Atkins? Is he related to Jerry Atkins? If recent history at other airlines is a predictor of things to come at DAL, your shrinking towards a mediocre pay scale as well. You just don't know it yet, or refuse to acknowledge it. That billion dollar cut isn't the last. I wish it was for your sake, but I doubt it.

Is Jerry Atkins related to Jerry ATKIN, the CEO of SKYWEST? There is no S at the end of his name. I can't believe how many SkyWest employees dont know the bosses name.

 

[jetexas]

I think Eagle may be a bad opportunity, due to the 8 year upgrade

We can only hope that its only an 8 year upgrade. We got 125 flowed to AA and now they are telling us over 600 flowbacks that will take all future captain slots as well as displacing current captains. What a deal that flowthrough was. 40 a month taking captain seats in Jan and Feb and displacing the same amount. We will most likely have 10 year - 12 year FO's before all is said and done. Not a pretty picture.

 

[Russ]

"Is Jerry Atkins related to Jerry ATKIN, the CEO of SKYWEST? There is no S at the end of his name. I can't believe how many SkyWest employees dont know the bosses name"

Okay, you got me. I do know its SkyWest not SKYWEST however.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Good job there Russ. BUT, I used caps lock to make a point. You will notice in my following sentence I spelled it SkyWest.

Us dispatchers can be real d*cks cant we?

 

[CHQ-FO]

The best regional is the one that hires you. Very few of us will ever have the luxury of choosing between two airlines. We ususally just go with whoever gives the first offer and hope for the best.

 

[Speedbird34]

I love working at PSA will not go anywhere else on the regional level.We are in a difficult place financially but the team and pilots are awesome company. The flying is excellent with destinations in the caribean starting in feb. I do feel most other airlines measure up and are very similiar in benefits. I totally do not feel any other company is better than mine except it is a major airline. We even have a flow through to mainline US Airways. I could stay here and fly an Airbus one day if we have them then.
I just love working with an expereince crop of ex mainline pilots with lots of time flying Airbus, Boeing airplanes who are still quite humble inspite of all the blows they have taken in this industry.
We fly 50 and 70 seat airplanes and have 90 seaters on the horizon!!

 

[Secret Squirrel]

Flow Thru to U.S. Airways?

Good luck with that one! Are they giving you a time frame on that? Somewhere around the next ice age?

Last I heard US lost financing for all the RJ's. When did this change?

Is this flame or have things really turned around at PSA?

 

[Bluestreaker]

flow thrue? 900's? did they tell you all that crap in ground school? Yeah, there's a flow through but we'll never see that in our lifetime. We'll be lucky if airways stays in business. The only thing this place has going for it is the people.

 

[Bart Simpson]

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Asking what airline is the best to work for is like answering your wife when she asks if that new skirt makes her look fat.

 

[Sir Humpalot]

Bart,

nicely said. I couldnt have said it better.

 

[Crossky]

Which regional is the best to work for today, and which do you see as having the most potential in the next few years (upgrade, QOL, larger a/c, etc).

Oh that's easy, it's MESAup, everyone knows that, especially low timers. Or how about SKYpEST (er I mean SKYbEST, depending on who you talk to) It could be Eagle too, they're connected so well at the hip to American, you know.

Wait, I know it, the best regional is Gulfstream International, especially if you hook up with their $25K training program. Great Lakes is close behind, they pay you $15.30 per hour, just think, at 40 hours a week, that's $31,824 the first year!

Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas from today's Grinch.

 

[Flightjock30]

Commutair all the way!!!!

 

[Damich]

Crossky,

How can you even consider putting SkyWest in the same category as Mesa and Lakes. All regionals have their limitations but IMHO SkyWest is a pretty good company all things considered.

 

[Crossky]

I so sorre,
pease fogive me fo bean so not sensitive. You right, SkyWest number one, top notch, numero uno.

Seriously, I didn't mean anything by it, just a little disinformation on my part. I carry just a little envy against a company which has an operation like they do and management which treats them like they do and with non-union workgroups at the same time. This is a just a product of my observations of my own success in working for two carriers with pilot unions.

Maybe I should switch sides, huh?

NEVER, unless I'm CA flying a bus or boeing for not less than $100K.

Crossky,

How can you even consider putting SkyWest in the same category as Mesa and Lakes. All regionals have their limitations but IMHO SkyWest is a pretty good company all things considered.

 

[difete]

Speedbird

Whats up Speedbird. This is Difete here at Skywest...
Hope all going well for you.

Hope you have not forgotten the old days at the basin...
BUGS OFF!!!! CLEAR RIGHT!!!

Call me on the weekend.

Happy trails.

 

[Dodge]

XJTAv8r,
The latest round of Bae-146 upgrades went to people hired in 1989 and 1990. Saab upgrade is generally somewhere in the first half of 1999. About two or three slots per month.

 

[SloDoDriver]

I can verify that upgrade time is that. I actually met guys while doing my interview that were doing upgrade training. They had been there anywhere from a year and a half to two years. The one FO I met who has been there 9 months has his flight time and starts upgrade training in January, but like I said who knows what will happen when my turn comes around, it could totally reverse????

MTN.....Congrats on your job..........But when I started at my Regional- guys where upgrading 9-12 months........I am now getting Furloughed after 3 years.....Just keep it real and you'll get your chance hopefully.......George W is giving me lots of work in the sandbox.......Semper Fi!!!