been out of our hands at Mesaba

[noonan]

I find all this bantering back and forth on this board about "If you (Mesaba Pilots) don't stand up against these management scumbags and strike, you're are no better than ______ (insert airline)
Easy talk from people on the outside looking in. Will you all walk off your job in support if we strike? I doubt it. I will even bank my house on it that you won't. Nobody did for Comair, or Northwest.
You will still have food on your plate, a roof over your head, all the while being self righteous saying "You all sold us out". We were sold out long before XJ filed bankruptcy and decided to rape the workers. We are given an impossible situation, and I feel have done the best of it, although no one is happy with this outcome. (Except mngmt) I agree it has to stop somewhere, but until ALPA, the WHOLE ALPA stands up, this will never get fixed.
Hell, we can't even stand unified in our own company. Right now we should be standing up to management and saying "until you come to an agreement with maintenance, no deal", (Sorry Howie M.) and we won't even do that. We are leaving them hung out to dry. Management knows this. They know that they have the upper hand and always will until ALPA acts like a true union and finally says "no more".
It's Mesaba today, and _______ (insert your airline) tomorrow. Will you vote in your sucky TA? Probably. Just like we probably will. You think that every major airline wasn't watching the outcome to our struggle and taking notes? Think again. They beat us up to the point where we say "I'm just tired of this, and want it to be over". At that point, they've won. Now all airlines know this model works perfectly.

This whole situation reminds me of a line from a song "We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost"

 

[big shacks]

MX TA Today. source mymesaba

 

[Terry Hunter]

... Right now we should be standing up to management and saying "until you come to an agreement with maintenance, no deal", (Sorry Howie M.) and we won't even do that...

Mesaba, mechanics reach deal

Mesaba Airlines and its mechanics union announced at 1 p.m. today that they have reached a deal on a concessionary contract. Terms of the tentative agreement were not disclosed and they are subject to ratification by Mesaba members of the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA).

Liz Fedor, Star Tribune Last update: October 31, 2006 – 1:22 PM

 

[saabservant]

No member of the Mesaba Labor Coalition was left out to dry.
The coalition was very effective, credit Wychor(alpa), Rogat(afa) and Granath(amfa).
Bet unions at nwa wish they would have done it...

The strike issue became moot when Judge Dipsh** issued the strike injunction. Note, however, the level of support for us at the US
Courthouse last Thursdayat our picketing/protest/rally by over eight airlines, and by union leadership.
International ALPA also issued a hiring ban against mesaba management.

Those of you who want to be personally liable for millions in fines and prison time step right up and violate a federal injunction, so long as it is at your own airline. All else is verbal masturbation, cheap talk.

The MEC votes on the TA tomorrow, if approved, details out tomorrow night, and roadshows Thursday, Friday, Tuesday. I hear voting would conclude last week of November.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

I kind of feel like the end of The Usual Suspects, when that guy walks out with a limp and a cane and as he walks away there goes the limp and cane. Dang, fooled by the idiots. XJ mgt runs around looking like idiots (see any J.Spanjers memo for evidence) yet in the end will probably get credit for saving the company despite the fact they actually did nothing to help (no paycuts if I were to guess for SLT). Although, I think many would agree there were others who actually pulled the strings. cya

 

[saabservant]

Yeah, big brother must have sent that witch attorney Siresi a message at imposition -12 hours....