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[caseyd]

So if a twenty year airline type wanted to abandon it and return to his roots (corp flying) but had few contacts still alive , how would he start to lose that 121 stink? For the sake of discussion, assume he was a good guy, knew when to shut up/wash the windscreen/offer a coffee etc.

 

[English]

There is no 121 stink that friends on the inside can't clean. So, start making contacts. A good way would have been to go to the NBAA convention this week. I made lots of good contacts, even though I am not currently looking to get back into corporate or charter. At last year's convention, I was offered two jobs on the spot. The big discriminator is whether you are voluntarily leaving the airlines, or you are being furloughed. If you are going voluntarily, likely you won't have the same issues you'd have if you are being furloughed.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

I think the "corp hates 121" thing is blown out of proportion.

Just be a likeable guy, someone the rest want to spend 10 days on the road with...

Just dont be one of those "at XYZ airline we didnt do this" (we dont care what you did at XYZ airline)

and NEVER be "my union wouldn't have me do this" (we DEFINITLY dont care what the union does)

Those are the issues that plague 121 folks. Plus having prior corp experience helps A LOT - they know you already know how important cust/client satisfaction is - thats very important....and is sadly a skill the airlines will never get.

Play up your corp experience on a resume, talk about "the airlines" as little as possible and you will be just fine! My employer will interview airline guys, so will others..

You are less "stinky" than you think.

 

[banned username 2]

Gulfstream 200 pretty much summed it up... Your prior life as a Corporate pilot will be a big advantage for you vs. if you were 100% airline your whole career...

 

[caseyd]

There is no 121 stink that friends on the inside can't clean. So, start making contacts. A good way would have been to go to the NBAA convention this week. I made lots of good contacts, even though I am not currently looking to get back into corporate or charter. At last year's convention, I was offered two jobs on the spot. The big discriminator is whether you are voluntarily leaving the airlines, or you are being furloughed. If you are going voluntarily, likely you won't have the same issues you'd have if you are being furloughed.

English,
Thanks for the feed back. I thought about LAS this week but felt walking around with a handful of resumes a waste of time. Boys have other fish to fry at that one. Maybe I was wrong. Some one else suggested minimizing the 121 past...got it,...someone suggested forgetting how we did it there.....got it, as for highlighting the past corp experience.....I can and will, it was just two decades ago. I'm otta here voluntarily. It's no fun for more reasons than I have the patience to type.

 

[caseyd]

Gulfstream 200 pretty much summed it up... Your prior life as a Corporate pilot will be a big advantage for you vs. if you were 100% airline your whole career...

Old aquaintance who runs a globe trotting F900 department suggested one might make a buck free lancing in the F50/900, GLEX, G3/4 world. Said ultimately a rating and currency count more than time in type. Personality on a two week trip to some unpronouncable former Russian states count. But it would take lots of door knocking to establish a trade. Thoughts??

 

[sleepy]

I just left 121 for corporate. It isn't really that hard, but I did have prior Fortune 500 corporate experience. We also recently hired another former airline pilot.

It is all a matter of who you know more than anything else. Most companies post job openings on their web site or in the paper to comply with EEOC BS, but in most cases they already know who they are going to hire.

Make some contacts.