B6 or Atlas

[curtaindriver]

Along the same line- I'm a brand new CA upgrading at Eagle(zero PIC turbine) and also have a JB offer. I'm concerned about going somewhere without having any PIC and then getting F'ed and wind up back at the bottom of a regional. Is it worth staying put at Eagle and commuting to reserve junior CA to get PIC time or just make the jump to Blue with no commute to BOS and hope for the best if/when they get bought/merged/etc?

Looking for QOL/seniority

No brainer.....come to Blue. Seriously, living in base.......your QOL will be quite good. Not to mention, even with our own problems, the uncertainty at Eagle right now is worth getting out. Good luck on your decision.

CD

 

[johnsonrod]

Along the same line- I'm a brand new CA upgrading at Eagle(zero PIC turbine) and also have a JB offer. I'm concerned about going somewhere without having any PIC and then getting F'ed and wind up back at the bottom of a regional. Is it worth staying put at Eagle and commuting to reserve junior CA to get PIC time or just make the jump to Blue with no commute to BOS and hope for the best if/when they get bought/merged/etc?

Looking for QOL/seniority

I'd probably go to JB in that situation - if you have an offer in hand and you could live at your base. Not sure what the upgrade time will be at JB.

 

[BeachBummer]

Along the same line- I'm a brand new CA upgrading at Eagle(zero PIC turbine) and also have a JB offer. I'm concerned about going somewhere without having any PIC and then getting F'ed and wind up back at the bottom of a regional. Is it worth staying put at Eagle and commuting to reserve junior CA to get PIC time or just make the jump to Blue with no commute to BOS and hope for the best if/when they get bought/merged/etc?

Looking for QOL/seniority

If you want QOL I would have turned in my two weeks already. Seniority bus left JB about 5-6yrs ago. You will be quite happy hear vs. eagle. As far as getting F'ed down the road, no one knows. It's a leap of faith.

Good Luck!

 

[se1776]

And Atlas will?

Can I borrow your crystal ball, need some lottery mbers for next week?

here you go 123456

 

[Draginass]

Eagle is a dead duck. They can't give it away. I think it's going to get spun-off without the CRJs, and from there die a quick demise. B6 sounds much better.

 

[F9 A319]

Go to B6 as soon as possible!!

Establishing your seniority there may affect the rest if your life. I have a friend that passed on a F9 class to take the next available class. It cost him like 75 numbers in the merger with RAH.

Run to JetBlue!

 

[Fins Up]

A quote from my buddy who started at Atlas last year:

Great flying, s********************ty schedule. Hoping to get a call from fedex or swa soon!

That's all the intel I got.

 

[tbm700]

What about pay at B6? Any accurate #'s?

 

[100fly]

Check pay scales on Airlinepilotcentral.com. They are acurate.

 

[Ty Webb]

K

As for age 75, NO WAY! Buy a smaller house, drive your car until it dies, if its good enough for Warren B its good enough for me. Retire at 65 and enjoy those golden years!

Save,save,save!

Uh, hate to break it to you, but lots of people don't make it to 65, even "healthy" airline pilots. I know dozens of examples of pilots who retired at 60 and then promptly fell off a ladder, wrecked a motorcycle, developed cancer, etc . . . .

In other words, don't put ALL your eggs in a retirement basket, or you may never get your eggs. . . . . .

PS., Florida is filled with millions of old people that thought it was going to be different when they retired, left all those @holes behind and moved to Florida . . . . When they got to Florida and moved into to their house or condo, they found they were still the same people they were in NJ or Philly or Des Moines . . . and it really p!sses 'em off when they finally figure out that they can't move away from themselves. :laugh:

 

[MINIME]

My gut feeling is that B6 will be tapped by someone. It's almost inevitable. No airline can get enough of the New York market. B6 has a pretty good amount.

Depending on precedents set by other mergers/acquisitions, you still might be better off at B6. I'm not a lawyer, but if B6 had the supposed protections of a union, I would say hands down, don't wait another second and get to class at B6. I just don't know how much laws like McCaskill/Bond could actually protect a pilot group without any other legal protections. Protections such as scope, time frames for integration, language that any acquiring/merging body would have to abide by legally. This is language that has to be carefully crafted. And in most cases, it is most commonly acquired through a CBA.

Atlas is a fine cargo carrier. I don't foresee them going anywhere anytime soon. Perhaps they too could be part of the consolidation game via UPS or FDX, who knows. I am aware of their integration of Polar.