B6 190 gets add'l package

[Heavy Set]

Mike's Apartment,

Great point! They'll probably need huds for normal landings too... They'll be so tired from their 7-11 jobs on the side that the HUDs will come in handy...

 

[8vATE]

All the childish comments aside..


The dual HUD's on EMB 190 are intended to be the Primary Flight Display for the Captain and F/O...

Sensitivity and accuracy is much better than a normal flight director... Guidance will be available at all times including flare mode for all landings (vfr/ifr)

This is a big change and a first for any civilian commercial aircraft...
Both pilots will be "heads up" looking out the window....
Situational awareness... traffic avoidance... controlled flight in to terrain...
I don't see any downside to any of these issues...

The automated ECAM system doesn't necessitate sitting and studying an analog gauge such as a flight engineer does....

Those of you that say its a waste and not necessary will just have to wait and see....

This is a fundamental change to flight training and instrumentation...

 

[TheTIC]

Dual HUDs

The dual HUDs in the C-17 have really been a great. It keeps our heads looking outside during 300ft AGL low levels. Allows us to land a 500,000lb plane in 3500 ft. During CAT IIs we can see out side as we are flying down final.

C-17 probably don't have the same instrument cross check that we had at one time, but everybody I've talked to that moved from the C-17 to an old MD-80 has not had any problem. I guess it's like riding a bike.

Disadvantages include- not having a different color ground and sky as you have on an ADI. And, when people first fly with the HUD, they seem to stare into the hud and forget to look at the rest of the world.

Just like having TCAS, I would feel much safer on a plane that had a HUD.

 

[Cheesemo]

Having flown HUD jets for 20 years, they are a real SA builder. They make mincemeat of visual approaches. You have better throttle/power cues for smoother approaches. I wish SWA had them on the F/O side, but our company procedures have the captain flying the approach when the soup rolls in anyway.


As for the -190, it sounds and looks like a nice jet. I just hope they put some motors on it. The other EMB's climb like they forgot to raise the gear!

Cheers

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

The dual HUDs in the C-17 have really been a great. It keeps our heads looking outside during 300ft AGL low levels. Allows us to land a 500,000lb plane in 3500 ft. During CAT IIs we can see out side as we are flying down final.

The C-130 can land in less than 2500 feet without a HUD. Just a matter of practice and aimpoint control. I think its those monster brakes of the C-17 that makes you able to stop a 500,000 lb. aircraft. All the HUD does is keep your aimpoint under control, which may be harder in a C-17....I've never flown one. Sounds like a real dream with all the cool toys.

Sorry. I saw the shot, there was no danger...now I'll get back above the hard deck.

 

[TheTIC]

FBJ,

I feel your activated pain. And the brakes are what really stops us. However, I enjoy the C-17 HUD, and wouldn't want to land on a short field w/o it. From what I have heard, the J model 130 HUD is nicer than ours. Prior 130 guys have fun in the 17, but some of them miss the short legs of the 130 and like playing army.

I wish you a short activation.