B-2s to the Guard

[stlpilot]

The way I understand it is that the St Louis guard, who is currently F-15s has been notified that they will change their mission to the B-2. The B-2s will still be active duty, but the guard will also operate them. That is how I understand it, but I am writing on here because I just heard about it, and am simply trying to see if anyone else has more/better/concrete info.

GO BENGALS!!!!

That all checks with what I know, for now anyways. The manning document for this thing is a work in progress right now. Whether the guard owns a few aircraft, operates active duty’s, or a mix of both is also not quite known. As for pilots, again its too soon to say anything for sure whether current STL folks will transfer over, retire, go to another unit, etc.

Yes I know Iv pretty much told you nothing, it’s just too soon to say what the layout will be.

Merry Christmas all!

 

[BengalsFan]

STLpilot

When are you all officially taking over that mission/when is the manning document suppose to be official?

 

[frog_flyer]

STLpilot

When are you all officially taking over that mission/when is the manning document suppose to be official?

Rough game............................. that sucked.

 

[Oh-ryan]

I was not in the military. And as I sit here reading how our newest front line aircraft are being worked into the TOE of Air NG units, red flags wave in my mind. I worry that somewhere, someone is seeing how our endless summer in Iraq and Afghanistan is turning folks away from the full time air force, so we're going to make up for it by incessently employing the Air Guard overseas. Sorta like the Army National Guard is now spread across the planet.

I was also talking with a swab the other day who told me the next generation of aircraft carrier for the USN is being designed to cut the required crew compliment to operate it by up to a third. I find these trends disturbing.

Am I wrong to be concerned for you military fliers?

A big reduction in the manning of the NG carrier is due to the lack of steam cats and arresting gear. Gonna switch over to electro magnet drives and some other black magic. But as to whether or not this disturbs me... absolutely not. It's about time. The military may always be on the tip of the technology spear, but often those advances in technology stay at the upper echelons of the services. Very little of it trickles down to the hands of the soldier, airman, sailor or marine. It's due to the DOD starting to run itself like a business and not a government entity that has bottemless pockets. Back in the day, if there was an obstacle you threw manpower and money at it. Nowadays there more fiscal reponsibility to the taxpayer. Think of it, an oil tanker, which is just as big as an aircraft carrier, has about 20 crewmembers and somehow it manages to go just about every place a carrier can go in the world without incident. Why... automation. Granted, the folks on a carrier are not just going from A to B, but still, the precentage of the folks dedicated to the mission of getting it from A to B is about 500 times more than what is used on that oil tanker. It's silly and it's about time the military catch up with the civilian world in matters like this.

 

[JungleJett]

YES. CRJs are tubes of pain and discomfort!

Take the bus next time!!

 

[BengalsFan]

I try to stay away too...

Take the bus next time!!

This isn't a dig on the RJ pilot... just the equipment, but when I look for a plane ticket I am willing to spend more to stay off an RJ if it is possible. It is a terrible ride... and now with the airlines using them for more than just regional flying, I honestly look for a 737 or A320 when possible, instead of the RJ, on those longer flights.

 

[JungleJett]

This isn't a dig on the RJ pilot... just the equipment, but when I look for a plane ticket I am willing to spend more to stay off an RJ if it is possible. It is a terrible ride... and now with the airlines using them for more than just regional flying, I honestly look for a 737 or A320 when possible, instead of the RJ, on those longer flights.

If you take a look at the actual seat you are sitting in, it really is not that much different. I will agree the airlines are using them for more than what they were really built for but in some markets, it makes sense too. As for long flights, I would rather sit in first class instead of low class....the benefit of working for the airlines!

By the way..I hope your ok after last night wide snap on a FG attempt! I would have beaten Santa had he been around!

 

[MJG]

By the way..I hope your ok after last night wide snap on a FG attempt! I would have beaten Santa had he been around!

Lord knows I'm not, I think I threw up like 3 or 4 times after that, I haven't felt that sick since last season's playoff game in January.........uke:

 

[BengalsFan]

Oh man... we gave Denver a very early X-mas present... it was way more than just one snap. It was 2 fumbles, 2 picks, 2 pentalties that brought back long touchdowns, missed throws, allowing a 99 1/2 yard touchdown drive (by helping it continue with a couple of questionable pass interference pentalties), etc, etc. But as long as Miami beats the Jets tonight, then all we have to do is beat Pittsburg next week, and we are still in the playoffs! The dream continues.

As for the RJ, I still think it is extremely loud, and very bumpy... and the seats/leg room are smaller... It gets the job done, and I will obviously ride on 'em, but I do search for other options.

Take Care

and

GO BENGALS!!!

 

[IFollowRoads]

A big reduction in the manning of the NG carrier is due to the lack of steam cats and arresting gear. Gonna switch over to electro magnet drives and some other black magic. But as to whether or not this disturbs me... absolutely not. It's about time. The military may always be on the tip of the technology spear, but often those advances in technology stay at the upper echelons of the services. Very little of it trickles down to the hands of the soldier, airman, sailor or marine. It's due to the DOD starting to run itself like a business and not a government entity that has bottemless pockets. Back in the day, if there was an obstacle you threw manpower and money at it. Nowadays there more fiscal reponsibility to the taxpayer. Think of it, an oil tanker, which is just as big as an aircraft carrier, has about 20 crewmembers and somehow it manages to go just about every place a carrier can go in the world without incident. Why... automation. Granted, the folks on a carrier are not just going from A to B, but still, the precentage of the folks dedicated to the mission of getting it from A to B is about 500 times more than what is used on that oil tanker. It's silly and it's about time the military catch up with the civilian world in matters like this.

Well I figure an oil tanker probably pulls into port alot more often than an aircraft carrier. Thus it doesn't need alot of crew to do repairs at sea. Plus I never saw an oil tanker do an underway replenishment. Or fight a fire like the USS Forrestal crew had to fight. I figure the oil tanker crew won't try very hard to save her before they go to the life boats.

I dunno. I guess my main point is I think something is out of whack when we have so many reserve units deployed and frontline. I just don't want any of our kids to get shafted. Especially since I have a son who is hell bent on US Naval Aviation. Just call me a concerned parent