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With the altimeter indicating 1100 feet and the flaps at 5 this in my opinion is in all likely, the F/O asking for climb thrust after take-off.

the PNF guarding the throttles after passing V1??? well that's just ancient! and wrong
 
Lrjtcaptain asked:

got a question for you airliner drivers out there. It seems odd to me that while the fo is flying, he is using two hands and the captain is doing the throttle. That isn't typical is it? I know i fly with my left hand and throttle with my right, but is this typical CRM with some carriers or what?

and Dangerkitty responed:
Yes, its very common. At least at AA thats the way we did/do it. After V1, both hands go on the yoke while the other pilot guards the throttles.

Good CRM and Safety if you asked me.

I noticed the same thing as Lrjtcaptain. It does seem very odd to me that the F.O. is PF with his hands on the yoke while the Captain has his hands on the thrust levers. The autothrottle is working, as both the A/T arm switches are up and the A/T engage switch shows engaged. The 777 does not require any fine tuning of thrust when the autothrottle is working.

At my airline the Captain does guard the thrust levers up to V1, as he is the only one who can normally abort the takeoff. However, the Captain removes his hands from the thrust levers at the V1 callout. Then at approximately 200 feet the PF will start to guard the thrust levers, which is good practice. Guarding the thrust levers after the V1 call out, and prior to becoming airborne, is a recipe for disaster. If you have an event ( fire warning, engine failure, loud noise, etc ) then it is almost instinctual to pull the thrust levers to idle. For this reason nobody should have their hands on the thrust levers after the V1 call out until safely airborne. If AA does that then they need to seriously review their philosophy.

mnixon asked:

What if PF whats MAX power....does he call for it or go for it?

At my airline he goes for it while calling it. The PNF then ensures that it is set.

Kigair asked:

In the lower left corner of the picture there is a can that looks like an open Coors Light. Also, how far back do the seats go? Does the crew have to jump over the center console to sit down?

The seats slide back and outward to allow access to them. There isn't a lot of room, but there is enough to get into the seat without having to be contortionist.


Typhoonpilot
 
The photo looks eerily fake to me. Not only do the lighting and shadows look phony, but the pose of the pilots looks artificial.

I believe the Airbus crash Dangerkitty is referring to was actually an inflight demo of the capabilities of the A300 (or A330?) to a prospective customer. Yes, they actually pulled one engine to idle immediately after takeoff. I don't remember any other details but the crew lost control of the airplane and crashed. I'm not sure how many people were aboard, but I don't think it was 150.
 
Hawker rider said:
With the altimeter indicating 1100 feet and the flaps at 5 this in my opinion is in all likely, the F/O asking for climb thrust after take-off.

I think we a have winner!!! At my current employer, and a few others, SOP's calls for guarding the levers when A/T are making major "changes" i;e from TO to CLIMB etc.
 
T-Gates said:
Am I the only one who thinks putting a hull on the bottom of those things and turning them into boats would be cool?

Yes, you are.
 
Hawker rider said:
With the altimeter indicating 1100 feet and the flaps at 5 this in my opinion is in all likely, the F/O asking for climb thrust after take-off.

The field elevation at Kansai is only a few feet above Sea Level. The runway is less than 12,000' long. Does it seem right to you that they're at over 1100' at that point with that pitch attitude(with runway still ahead of them)? I've never flown a 777....but it doesn't seem right to me.

Would those altimeters be in feet or meters? The only one I can even come close to reading is the standby....and it sure looks like it shows approximately 1100...but that doesn't seem right based on the picture out the cockpit window.
 

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