Awac

[Mav204]

Awac?

I know that AWAC is doing alot of interviews..they did a mass phone interview last week.....how many got these calls and what were the backgrounds...from who I know that got the interview they were all 121 and had internal recomendations.

Any good rumors?

 

[dardar]

Internal recs and 135/121 experience. It's the Fedex of regionals. They hired a bunch of CFIs a while back, but I don't think that'll happen again anytime soon.

 

[Freightdog75]

Are new hires going to PHL, ORF? How many of them? Thanks

 

[doug_or]

Are new hires going to PHL, ORF? How many of them? Thanks

all the ones not going to DCA....

 

[Freightdog75]

thanks for the help.


You know.............. I bet half you people on this board wouldn't talk to each other(or me) the way you do on this site. Mabye it's something about not having the balls???????????? I don't know. Weak, just weak.

 

[dardar]

DC is pretty senior because of the easy commute. I haven't heard of anyone recently getting it out of training. Philly is more senior than Norfolk, but I think some people still get Philly out of training. Not sure of the numbers for either.

 

[Terrain Terrain]

Internal recs and 135/121 experience. It's the Fedex of regionals. They hired a bunch of CFIs a while back, but I don't think that'll happen again anytime soon.

The FedEx of regionals, oh my god, ahahahahhahah, ahhahahahaha

its a pay for departure buy a job airline. count your ducks before you get all hitler on us. Yea if you LIVE on the east coast IN base its not that bad. Upgrade are coming to a standstill, and after 2010 the future is not clear, and USair will not permit anything above 50 seaters. The funny thing was, just the other day some new AWAC upgrade was telling me he thought they would be getting 90 seaters. And was 3 legging it from IOWA to PHL.


The FEDEX, oh my, ahahahhahahhah

 

[dardar]

Well, I didn't mean it like that. I meant it more in terms of needing inside help getting in and the experience required.

 

[Terrain Terrain]

Well, I didn't mean it like that. I meant it more in terms of needing inside help getting in and the experience required.

ok, then i misunderstood you, i thought you were saying awac was like the best of the worst.

anyhow. later (retract a$$hole statement)

 

[Sig]

ok, then i misunderstood you, i thought you were saying awac was like the best of the worst.

anyhow. later (retract a$$hole statement)

If I thought I'd have a chance a few years ago at AWAC, I'd have given up at PDT no matter how hard I wanted to work here... as opposed to Mav204, who worked here a bit then went on.

Did you happen to see their 2nd year pay? Have you recently heard DP's comments toward them? They aren't going anywhere.

 

[arthompson]

AWACs agree allows them 70 seaters, thats part of the USX contract they signed and was upheld in the merger.

 

[Victor Meldrew]

AWACs agree allows them 70 seaters, thats part of the USX contract they signed and was upheld in the merger.

That agreement with USAir also had clauses that allowed for the addition of 90 seat aircraft (CRJ's now after the ALPA side letter) to be added on the basis of one 90 replacing one 50 seater. There was also a cap limit system wide of 100+ 90's.

On another note, with the finishing of MDA, it sounds like USAir isn't too happy with the overall performance of "Brickyard" and is looking to buy back their investment and remove them from the system.

 

[wheelsup]

AWACs agree allows them 70 seaters, thats part of the USX contract they signed and was upheld in the merger.

...but the big wigs have repeatedly said no 70 seaters. And I agree about the upgrades - a few here and there but not much going on.

Personally I predict a COEX type thing happening, the owners will spin off AWAC into a public company with a few years left on the 10 year agreement, make a bundle on their stock options, and bolt for the nearest exit. Except that when the 10 years expires, ALL our flying goes out for bid vs. slowly dwindling down like XJT.

I got hired on the upswing of last year, and was lucky to get some senority behind me until they stopped hiring, unlike those poor ex-FlyI guys who have been sitting reserve since Feb!

 

[Mav204]

...On another note, with the finishing of MDA, it sounds like USAir isn't too happy with the overall performance of "Brickyard" and is looking to buy back their investment and remove them from the system.[/quote]...

What are they doing that Mainline isn't happy about......just read (about 1 month ago) about Republic and their expansion/crew base in PIT and the deal that they got from the county....yes it's too bad to see MDA gone, used to commute on them all the time....now it's all "Brickyard"

 

[BoilerUP]

The Republic "Brickyard" guys have been GREAT to me in my commute. I know plenty of those pilots, and nobody's said a word about their performance. I somehow doubt MDA's performance with the Embraer 180 was any better than Repubshuttleaqua's...

The mass of upgrades a while back coincided with the mass of newhires and high attrition. Attrition has slowed down and upgrades have slowed down, but they still seem to be doing 8-16/month. Besides, if the Denver-west CAs I've flown with follow through with their conversation, many of them will be gone in 6-12 months anyway...hopefully all to greener (or purple, or brown, or blue) pastures.

With the stock sell recently there is no telling what the Amigos have up their sleeves. They could be positioning themselves for larger aircraft, they could be cashing out, who knows. One thing thats plain to see is there are far too many 50s in the Airways system...the only real question is who will get 70s/90s in the future - RAH, Mesa, PSA or AWAC?

 

[PoorJetDriver]

I'm afraid you are horribly misinformed, MDA had very respectable performance, very near to mainline after the initial growing pains wore off.

 

[Mav204]

My fireind interview on June 13 and just got the phone call and put into the pool. I guess they are having a July 10 Class but don't know how many peopel are going to be in the class. Who else got phone calls? or class dates?

 

[Drill Sgt. Dad]

I am an ex FLYI who got on at Air Wisconsin. I sat RSV one month. I am PHL based. if I stayed in ORF or went to DCA, I'd still be RSV. After 5 1/2 years at FLYI I no longer listen to rumours, nor get my hopes up. i.e. NW flying or the Midwest flying. I just do my job and go home. The morale is low from those who have been here a while and have seen things change. I personally saw mass changes at ACA/IDE. So I am used to being around disgruntled crew members. However, I appluad those pissed off pilots when they get into airplanes they throw those problems out the door and do their jobs. I don't seem to mind it too badly here, except for the first year pay and the schedules are not too good. Niether of my trips are commutable on either end. But this is what it is, a regional airline. If you can learn the system, you can play it to your advantage, if you can't learn the system, you'll be miserable. If you come here, it's up to you how you view working here. As for the attrition, it's still high, I looked at how much I moved up in 5 months and it averages 23 per month are still leaving. Also with just 70 RJs and no BAe 146s, they won't need as many.
As for sitting RSV, if you are RSV FO for now, don't expect to fly much. When I was on RSV for a month and a half, I flew maybe 20 hours. But I have plenty of time in the plane, so I wasn't in danger of not making my 100 hours in 120 days. As for the training. Much more relaxed here than at ACA/FLYI. There are NO training Nazis here and everyone was more than helpful in teaching how AWAC does things. As for IOE, it was odd having more time than my IOE CA, but we both taught each other things. As for the people I have flown with, about the same, everyone is fairly laid back and haven't ran into any egos or bullies yet, although every airline has them. It depends how you can handle them and not show weakness or let them stomp on you. And besides the poor drug prescription program they have here, it really isn't a bad place to work.

 

[IdRtherBsailing]

And they gave us coasters

 

[Mav204]

I am an ex FLYI who got on at Air Wisconsin. I sat RSV one month. I am PHL based. if I stayed in ORF or went to DCA, I'd still be RSV. After 5 1/2 years at FLYI I no longer listen to rumours, nor get my hopes up. i.e. NW flying or the Midwest flying. I just do my job and go home. The morale is low from those who have been here a while and have seen things change. I personally saw mass changes at ACA/IDE. So I am used to being around disgruntled crew members. However, I appluad those pissed off pilots when they get into airplanes they throw those problems out the door and do their jobs. I don't seem to mind it too badly here, except for the first year pay and the schedules are not too good. Niether of my trips are commutable on either end. But this is what it is, a regional airline. If you can learn the system, you can play it to your advantage, if you can't learn the system, you'll be miserable. If you come here, it's up to you how you view working here. As for the attrition, it's still high, I looked at how much I moved up in 5 months and it averages 23 per month are still leaving. Also with just 70 RJs and no BAe 146s, they won't need as many.
As for sitting RSV, if you are RSV FO for now, don't expect to fly much. When I was on RSV for a month and a half, I flew maybe 20 hours. But I have plenty of time in the plane, so I wasn't in danger of not making my 100 hours in 120 days. As for the training. Much more relaxed here than at ACA/FLYI. There are NO training Nazis here and everyone was more than helpful in teaching how AWAC does things. As for IOE, it was odd having more time than my IOE CA, but we both taught each other things. As for the people I have flown with, about the same, everyone is fairly laid back and haven't ran into any egos or bullies yet, although every airline has them. It depends how you can handle them and not show weakness or let them stomp on you. And besides the poor drug prescription program they have here, it really isn't a bad place to work.

RES in PHL...I get to fly 1-2 legs per week. Ready Reserve I never flew, I did about 7-8 legs the whole month!!

I too have been at another airline and wiol not believe anything until I see it in my pay check or painted on the ramp!

I just don't understand what's going on in ATW. Overstaffed by FO's, understaffed CA's. After doing the math, 70 aircraft appx 850 pilots, that's about 6 crews per airplane. and losing 18 people per month (a soft number) why do we have a backlog in training and not replaing these people so fast.
What's going on in hiring?

 

[RJ Mexico]

Yeah reserve is pretty tough at the moment. 3rd Month on reserve and seriously only about 17 hours to show for it. 27 days and counting since I last flew! S#i! back to feeling like a bum!

 

[Mav204]

Ya, I hope to get my 100 Hrs. in 120 Days!!!!!

 

[Kenny]

why do we have a backlog in training and not replaing these people so fast.
What's going on in hiring?

Can't tell you about the hiring but remember we had all the 146 guys to train in a matter of months aswell as the new hires and upgrades. There's only so many places we can get sim time.

 

[mynameisjim]

They were junior manning captains over the weekend. Fat in FOs. Fun fun

 

[Mav204]

Does anyone know if there is going to be a July 10 class at AWAC?