AWA looking for Merger Partner

[TriJet]

I still think AAI and AWA would make a good fit. Excellent route network. 90 more 737's on order for AAI could replace the exsiting Airbuses and older 737's. Boeing would love to stick it to Airbus. Moving forward, you get rid of Mesa's RJ's, and replace them with our own RJ, I mean 717, and use the 737 to standardize the fleet. -700's and -800s, maybe even the -900's to replace the 757 flying. Order the 787 to ramp up international flying. Bring on the world.

Instant airline with 220 planes, hubs in ATL, PHX, and LAS. Over 4 years you phase in the AAI order to replace the buses, and in 4 years you have a relatively young fleet, with maybe 2 or 3 types.

Could it work, who knows.

very ambitious, how about just trying to avoid chapter 11?

 

[jetalc]

Frontier is another story. They still receive quite a bit of complaints from customers. Lost bags, majority of the flights still not departing or arriving on time, and poor customer service are at the top of the list. Frontier would have to really get their act in order here. You can't have a merger and still have poor customer service. It's not a good way to start. By the way, I will pay more to fly on someone else than go on Frontier. I've never had a good experience with them. (late arrivals, lost bags, and very rude gate agents at some locales.)

I'm sorry for your bad experience on Frontier, but I think your dribble under the auspices that you know what the hell you're talking about regarding the general public is entirely unwarranted and inaccurate. Where are you getting these supposed "facts?" Frontier is not the airline whose employees all disappeared during the massive cancellation of flights several years ago in Phoenix, becoming the laughing stock of the media. Frontier is not the one deeply in debt to the government, and the gate agents who are "rude" must be isolated incidents. I refuse to stoop so low as to turn this into a bashing of AWA - all airlines have had their troubles recently and I have quite a few very good friends who fly for AWA. However, your post slamming FRNT is pure and simple flamebait. Take your ridiculous assertions and go play in a different sandbox.

 

[terryhfly]

I think VABB has spent to much time in the desert. You don't have a clue about Frontier.

 

[LearLove]

OK, I'll join in the speculation fun. What about U/AWA/Frontier. An east coast, west coast, carib low cost super carrier that can do point to point and hubs (big cities and small) along with some euro stuff. Keep the code share with UAL for world wide access also (UAL would pare down domestic ops, especially in the west). Maybe, maybe not. Only time will tell.

 

[oldxfr8dog]

AWA has done very well in the customer service area in recent years. They really turned themselves around in that area and have done well. Frontier is another story. They still receive quite a bit of complaints from customers. Lost bags, majority of the flights still not departing or arriving on time, and poor customer service are at the top of the list. Frontier would have to really get their act in order here. You can't have a merger and still have poor customer service. It's not a good way to start. By the way, I will pay more to fly on someone else than go on Frontier. I've never had a good experience with them. (late arrivals, lost bags, and very rude gate agents at some locales.)

Buddy you are so totally off-the-mark it's amazing!
AWA is hit or miss. Sometimes FANTASTIC and sometimes...
Anyway, F9 has ALWAYS been incredibly great to me. I've run up to the gate with 30 seconds to door closing (through tight connects) and the agent has ALWAYS gotten me on. Onboard each and every crew are just regular folks and do their best to help a jumpseater out.
I will always be grateful and always looking for ways to pay you guys back.
Thanks

 

[GogglesPisano]

I doubt very much JetBlue would ever touch a union carrier. Whatever they want they can gain through simple expansion.

 

[enigma]

Another thought is Spirit. They certainly have quite a few Airbus' on the way, and have a small network route structure on the East Coast. The problem with that is the investment group put $125M into the company and would like a return(they want to float an IPO, but that may not be viable with fuel prices this high).

lowecur, Oaktree Capital put up $150M not $125M, and the are about to put up another $51M. Oh by the way, they are all still threatening Chapter 11. I and the majority of my pilot brothers believe that the BK threat is nothing more than propaganda. We'll see soon enough.

I would really be surprised to see the current NK ownership merge with Cactus (although I would welcome such a move). They want to take a profit and run. They can be bought, but who would pay anything for Spirit? We don't own much of anything of real value. A few slots at DCA and LGA, who cares about rented ticket space at FLL? Does Cactus have a few hundred mil lying around?

regards,
enigma