Avantair Stand Down?

[brokeflyer]

I think it would help the hard working pilot group if you would share these thoughts with the higher ups at Avantair.

no it wouldnt....

 

[gutshotdraw]

Another customer over from the owners forum.

Private aviation is only worth the money when it saves time whether for business or personal use. For the last eight months flying with Avantair has caused more headaches than flying commercially at a significantly higher price. I have had to charter last minute flights from Citationair, Jetsuite, and XOJet just to salvage business trips and vacations where I couldn't get 4 commercial seats on 12 hour notice. Finally bought a Marquis card just for peace of mind.

The Avantair pilots are extremely professional and are very patient while listening to us bitch. At this point, they are the company's best asset. I feel for them more then anyone else in the organization.

In general, pilots are mission-oriented people, determined to take care of their passengers and deliver the service they are paid to provide. It is extremely frustrating to us when outside forces, mismanagement, or unfortunate circumstance prevent us from getting you from A to B on time. Thank you for recognizing the efforts of the Avantair pilots and their sad situation as their executive team fritters away what was a viable niche market position in this industry.

I fear that Avantair will not survive this latest stand down and can only hope that the recently rising tide of airline hiring and modest economic recovery will help their pilots and support employees find new, better employment elsewhere.

 

[brokeflyer]

whats worse is the pilots will be out of a job and all the management thieves will parachute our very very rich people.

 

[jonjuan]

whats worse is the pilots will be out of a job and all the management thieves will parachute our very very rich people.

And then take their riches and buy netjets shares which will keep netjets pilots employed, food on the table, and junior with the new GI Joe with the Kung fu grip. See how that works, pops?

 

[justreading]

I think it would help the hard working pilot group if you would share these thoughts with the higher ups at Avantair.

Management does not return calls. Customer service reps are as high as they will let us go.

With the way they have disrespected me and my family, I can't imagine they care about my opinion or their pilots.

 

[justreading]

And then take their riches and buy netjets shares which will keep netjets pilots employed, food on the table, and junior with the new GI Joe with the Kung fu grip. See how that works, pops?

Not NetJets, but you are close. Pilot from another company that we used to get us home when Avantair canceled our flight told a great story about flying the Avantair CEO. Would tell it but it might put the pilot in jeopardy.

 

[CALRepublic]

And then take their riches and buy netjets shares which will keep netjets pilots employed, food on the table, and junior with the new GI Joe with the Kung fu grip. See how that works, pops?

Nobody has followed the Flightinfo SOP thus far, I'm actually surprised nobody is blaming Netjets for what's happening to Avantair.

The way it usually goes:

1- X company is in trouble
2- Netjets is the main reason
3- Netjets will buy X company and staple their pilots to the bottom

I've seen this movie at least 5 or 6 times here

 

[justreading]

Nobody has followed the Flightinfo SOP thus far, I'm actually surprised nobody is blaming Netjets for what's happening to Avantair.

The way it usually goes:

1- X company is in trouble
2- Netjets is the main reason
3- Netjets will buy X company and staple their pilots to the bottom

I've seen this movie at least 5 or 6 times here

Not sure I understand this one. Which companies have NetJets bought in the last ten years other then Marquis which was using NetJets' planes and pilots?

 

[VGerect]

Not sure I understand this one. Which companies have NetJets bought in the last ten years other then Marquis which was using NetJets' planes and pilots?

It's an inside joke for fractional pilots. When all else fails- blame NetJets and/or NetJets Pilots for the crisis de jour.

 

[crewfoodmonkey]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busine...ny-avantair-failing-to-provide-planes/2128000

 

[brokeflyer]

"shoulda went to NetJets......"..facepalm

 

[justreading]

From another owner:

"All scheduled flights are now cancelled thru NEXT Friday (June 28th) and Avantair is not accepting any new flight reservations for flights thru July 9th. You read that right.....July 9th.

Read more: http://avantairowners.freeforums.net/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1&page=18#1371853977#ixzz2Wtg35fGT"

 

[hrofcr]

My source on the inside says he got an email to the Avantair owners saying a false accusation on a whistleblower hotline caused this grounding. Something about life limited parts were being used as new... CEO had a conference call to the Avantair Owners Only most likely for damage control!

This stand down occurred on +/- 07 June. It is now 14 days later, and still no flights. And now, they're saying no reservations for flights occurring before 09July?

Must have been one heck of a "false" accusation!

 

[gret]

delete

 

[gret]

a number of new posters...2 5 & 16 posts..23 in total

welcome and hope you stick around and offer thoughts on other issues...

 

[brokeflyer]

This stand down occurred on +/- 07 June. It is now 14 days later, and still no flights. And now, they're saying no reservations for flights occurring before 09July?

Must have been one heck of a "false" accusation!

That's what I was thinkin

 

[imacdog]

Good luck AA owners and pilots. AA management can suck it though.

 

[travelguy]

This is 100% speculation on my part that the total silence on the part of senior management may be due to the presence of a 'quiet period' indicating some kind of transaction (either good or bad) is in the works (as Avantair is a public company)


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[justreading]

This is 100% speculation on my part that the total silence on the part of senior management may be due to the presence of a 'quiet period' indicating some kind of transaction (either good or bad) is in the works (as Avantair is a public company)


Interesting action in the stock last two days. It went up. I know it is only 2 cents but in this situation it should be tracking to zero as the stock holders would get wiped out in a bankruptcy. A takeover would allow either a share exchange or buyout. Any negotiation likely has many parties that would need to sign off, which could explain the time being pushed back.

Are the pilots still positioning to fly?

 

[Pervis]

Are the pilots even getting paid? If not, I would not abide by any gag order that appears to be in place. Curious how quiet the pilots are. Most telling is another Frac site with owners selling shares. By far the most posted are AvantAir owners selling 50 hr blocks for as little as $75k. Even at bargain basement prices, it's hard to something that doesn't work.

I feel bad for the crews who put their backs into this job. We wear a lot more hats than the guys and gals that board, turn left, and shut the door, yet are still considered a liability by our EMTs. The real travesty is the fact these senior managers will bail with bonuses and land on their feet simply to destroy another company.