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I have been at Avantair for many years. Myself, as well as other “young guys” who don’t all live in Florida (26 gateway cities) do see this as a career destination job. The company has grown from 1 aircraft in 2002 to 46 aircraft currently. The delivery rate of one new Avanti II every three weeks last year is expected to continue this year. Current orders through 2011 would bring aircraft totals to 114. What I like best about it here is the incremental improvements. By the way, our seniority list is nearly 200 pilots now, if what Flybait3 said was true then we would have to hire and train up to 400 pilots a year to keep up.

Flybait3 also has his training time off by 2 – 3 weeks. Initial training is 21 - 22 days start to finish including travel. Hotel room (no sharing), and transportation are furnished. Per diem check is issued at the conclusion of training.

Funding has been an issue for Avantair. The company has transitioned from the CEO using his home as collateral, to private funding out of Reno to private funding out of Palm Beach and now Avantair is a publicly traded company. Pretty impressive accomplishment if you ask me. I have no trouble getting a home loan but cant imagine getting some one to fund an upstart aviation company.

Avantair is not propped up (no pun intended) by the Warren Buffet Empire or any aircraft manufacture like the bigger/older four. (Well, Flight Options was a manufacture affiliate until Raytheon pulled out). Avantair must make money or the investors will pull the plug. When I read the reports I see a company trending in the right direction.

In addressing duty time and tour issues, the company is coming out of a growth spurt and pilot to aircraft ratios are getting better. Using the seniority list and the aircraft numbers it is easy to see why we worked as hard as we did in ’07. The number of aircraft deliveries since the first Avanti II came on the property has been astounding.

Fractional is not for everybody. It is very demanding when we are on, but the time off is great and the problems are predictable.

Last I heard the CEO and DO had a couple of screenames on flightinfo. Soooo I'm guessing this is a new one?
 
Flybait3 also has his training time off by 2 – 3 weeks. Initial training is 21 - 22 days start to finish including travel. Hotel room (no sharing), and transportation are furnished. Per diem check is issued at the conclusion of training.

Thank you. I did not think the training was as long as a 121 airline with 20-30 new hires a month. I talked with a recruiter for a regional that told me to expect 2 month, maybe more, depending on sim availability. How can they pretend people to live on $300 a week for that long? They should give you the address of the food stamps office when hired….
 
But stay away from Options and Avantair. Both companies are losing money, they work you like a dog, dont really pay well and are runned by greedy crooks. Good luck.

Looks like you never had to work for a 121 supplemental freighter.
 
Like RollandPull, I have been at Avantair for over 2yrs and my goal is career. While the company is FAR from perfect, There have been steady improvements since I started. Unlike what Flybet claims, crewmeals are now provided if you have less than 90min between turns. No questions asked, no deduction from your perdiem. Yes the financials are a little rough right now, but we don't have uncle Warren. If the company keeps in the right direction, it will be a career in my opinion. And no, I'm not Mgmt just check my posting history.
 
Like RollandPull, I have been at Avantair for over 2yrs and my goal is career. While the company is FAR from perfect, There have been steady improvements since I started. Unlike what Flybet claims, crewmeals are now provided if you have less than 90min between turns. No questions asked, no deduction from your perdiem. Yes the financials are a little rough right now, but we don't have uncle Warren. If the company keeps in the right direction, it will be a career in my opinion. And no, I'm not Mgmt just check my posting history.

Second all that CorpFlunkie has said here. Very hopeful to stay for the long haul. 2 yrs, and QOL is great for me. Great bunch of co-workers, and the way the industry is moving, hopeful for even more increased QOL$$ as we grow!
Looking fwd to my 21 days off (vaca) at the end of this tour!
CorpF: you better make it up to go skiing next week!
 
I was just wondering what anyone knows about Avantair. There doesn't seem to be much information that I can find other than their Corporate home page and airlinepilotcentral. I haven't heard anything bad about them here and that sounds encouraging. Does anybody work there and if so do you like it? What are the duty days and rest periods like? How are you generally treated. I remember sitting inside an Avanti at the Oshkosh EAA event about 15 years ago and thinking that it was a really cool airplane and ahead of it's time. It must be a good bird if they are still buying more new ones. Any information is appreciated.

I'm a newbie at Avantair and so far, all is well. There are some things that I don't like, but that would be true at any company. I took the gamble that things will work out here in the long term, and I believe that this year will be very telling as to the future of this company (financially speaking).

Like some of the others have said, you will work long hard days here right up to the limits of duty or max flight time, for the most part. I've also done my fair share of hotel rotting, but that beats the hell out of FBO rot (have NEVER done that since I started). APC has a somewhat accurate breakdown of the current goings on at the company. I would encourage you to listen to the financial conference calls listed on www.avantair.com to help make your decision. pilotjobs@avantair.com is the place to send your cover letter and resume.
 
I'm a newbie at Avantair and so far, all is well. There are some things that I don't like, but that would be true at any company. I took the gamble that things will work out here in the long term, and I believe that this year will be very telling as to the future of this company (financially speaking).

Like some of the others have said, you will work long hard days here right up to the limits of duty or max flight time, for the most part. I've also done my fair share of hotel rotting, but that beats the hell out of FBO rot (have NEVER done that since I started). APC has a somewhat accurate breakdown of the current goings on at the company. I would encourage you to listen to the financial conference calls listed on www.avantair.com to help make your decision. pilotjobs@avantair.com is the place to send your cover letter and resume.

What about flying the P180 - has that been a good experience? I can hear them coming from a few miles and they look like they would actually be fun to fly.

Without trying to sound pompous or flip, do you guys ever get "jet envy"? Not suggesting that people need to fly jets - some jets are terrible to fly. But for those of you who came from the regionals with RJs or corporate operators, are you happy with flying the P180? I know that Phenom jets are on order down the line.

I do think the growth with quick upgrade time there is a big plus.
 
I came from flying CRJs (4,000 hrs 1,500 PIC) and 727's (600 SIC). I have ZERO jet envy.

The P180 feels like a jet. The leg lengths, altitudes and whatnot. It doesn't feel like a prop.

The only envy I have now is APU envy and Flight Attendant envy. I will not bid the Phenom because it has neither.
 
What about flying the P180 - has that been a good experience? I can hear them coming from a few miles and they look like they would actually be fun to fly.

Without trying to sound pompous or flip, do you guys ever get "jet envy"? Not suggesting that people need to fly jets - some jets are terrible to fly. But for those of you who came from the regionals with RJs or corporate operators, are you happy with flying the P180? I know that Phenom jets are on order down the line.

I do think the growth with quick upgrade time there is a big plus.

The airplane is a blast to fly! The major portion of my background is from flying PC-12s (a little bit of King Air and Lear 35 stuff mixed in also); this airplane is a moon shot compared to the Pilatus. No jet envy here. Interestingly enough, on a similar leg distance (TEB-PBI) that I have done in the PC-12, the Piaggio did it in much less time (1.5 less) on about 100lbs LESS fuel. Cool machine.

As glass said, an APU would be nice (not so sure about the FAs, unless they are all under 30 and are RNs :nuts: ).
 
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