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imacdog said:
Not required for cargo only ops.

Correct. The SIC requirement is only for IFR passenger-carrying operations or operations in aircraft with 10+ seats (VFR/IFR)

The references are 135.99, 135.101, and 135.105
 
As a pilot for Avantair for the past 2 years, I can say that they treat they treat their employees very well. All the pilots receive profit sharing quartery. In the past, it has been as high as $4,500. They do sell 16ths, but the average ownership size is 1/8th and we average 7.5 owners per plane. We have 20 planes now and receive 1 to 2 per month for at least the next 24 months. Our average aircraft age is 2.5 years. Dispatch reliabiity is actuay really good, and the planes are very well maintained. It's a great company to work for.
 
"I can say that they treat they treat their employees very well. All the pilots receive profit sharing quartery. In the past, it has been as high as $4,500."........."and the planes are very well maintained. It's a great company to work for."

Oh man! I 'bout blew my coffee through my nose laughing at this one! Joliman, honestly, is someone there payin' ya to say this or what!?

I'm not sure that I've ever been more lied to, used up, and taken advantage of by any other employee or business relationship in my life. I'm all for someone being satisfied with their job and more power to you, but I and many, many others there are/were on the opposite end of that spectrum.

I especially like the new payscale that stops paying the bonuses (that I rarely received), and instead pays $3,000 per year DEFERRED for 3 YEARS. Right, like we'll ever see that.....a ploy to keep people around.

Just another veiwpoint.
 
Hey Joliman:

As of Aug 1, Avantair stopped profit sharing for the pilots. They went to a 3 year deferred bonus plan.

Sort of keeps you on the hook for 3 years if you want that money.
 
avbug said:
§ 135.101 Second in command required under IFR.
Except as provided in § 135.105, no person may operate an aircraft carrying passengers under IFR unless there is a second in command in the aircraft.

Regardless of weather the aircraft is approved for single pilot operations or not, or weather the company is approved for single pilot with autopilot in lieu of a SIC, under 135, the company always has the option of using the SIC (if the SIC is qualified) instead of the autopilot, under 135.101, if the flight is conducted under IFR.

To answer your question, if a company has a single pilot authorization they don't need the SIC. However, at any time, they may use the SIC because 135 always requires and permits it, even when granted a single pilot with autopilot authorization. It's part of the basic regulation. Even if the autopilot is working, if the company has a trained SIC and wishes to use the SIC instead of flying the aircraft single pilot with autopilot, the company may elect to do so.

This is just as true in a Cessna 210 as any other aircraft.

Avbug,

Having read your eloquent explanation concerning your use of "mute" instead of "moot", I am now curious to hear if you have an equally entertaining explanation concerning your choice of the word "weather" where others might elect to use "whether".

Main Entry: 1wheth·er
Pronunciation: 'hwe-[th]&r, 'we-, (")(h)w&-
Function: pronoun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English hwæther, hwether; akin to Old High German hwedar which of two, Latin uter, Greek poteros, Old English hwA who -- more at [size=-1]WHO[/size]
1 archaic : which one of the two
2 archaic : whichever one of the two

Maybe it is your choice when discussing IMC, criteria for logging an instrument approach for currency, or autopilots and such to substitute the word "weather" for added emphasis. But I speculate.

You seem to be consistent in this practice and I am willing to bet you have an interesting story to share with us. Will you elaborate?

Thanks
 
traderd -

Oh man, don't even get me started with some of the spelling and word usage by the majority on this board... :rolleyes: :D
 
But I speculate.

A sad and loathesome admission for a professional aviator. I wouldn't say that too loudly.

You seem to be consistent in this practice and I am willing to bet you have an interesting story to share with us.

Yes, from muscle memory, that's how I type it, and at the speed I type, I don't care to go back and correct it...it's just not important to me. If it's that important to you, you correct it.

Surely you have something more important to concern yourself with in this life than how I spell weather? Say, the topic of this thread, for example?
 

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