Augusta Aviation @DNL

[G-force]

In January '05,the CP whom I knew related to me to NOT work for this outfit for the following reasons;Mx not done ,not signed off,training not done ,pilots not signed off,very much pressure on pilots to BUST flight & duty time regs,fly with squawks,pay & QOL issues very sub-standard for a PT 135 on-demand outfit, etc,etc.( The CP was resigning his position that day to take a PT 91 corporate position.)
A word to the wise!!!!

 

[climbhappy]

what are you? the 135 police?

g force, work for the FAA if you must keep notes on and dirt on every 135 operator in America.

 

[eagle06]

I used to fly through DNL alot. Intresting piece of info: almost no local pilots i talked to would get any mx done there. Dont know about the 135 stuff.

 

[Flywrite]

Shouldnt someone look at banning G-force before the site attracts unwanted legal attention from one of the companies he is constantly talking crap about? Why the hell is he now posting something about a 2-year-old job ad?? Is he really that pathetic?

I mean really, has this guy ever made a constructive post or is he just a lawsuit waiting to happen?

 

[G-force]

Reading & Understanding

Shouldnt someone look at banning G-force before the site attracts unwanted legal attention from one of the companies he is constantly talking crap about? Why the hell is he now posting something about a 2-year-old job ad?? Is he really that pathetic?

I mean really, has this guy ever made a constructive post or is he just a lawsuit waiting to happen?

The Ad on findapilot.com is a CURRENT ad for pilots at this outfit.Maybe the problem is that you cannot understand what you have read!!!!

Maybe you just can't read!!!!

 

[Flywrite]

The Ad on findapilot.com is a CURRENT ad for pilots at this outfit.Maybe the problem is that you cannot understand what you have read!!!!

Maybe you just can't read!!!!

Ahh....I see now that you make this crystal clear in your original post.

I bet you get a lot of people telling you not to go work somewhere, huh?

 

[G-force]

Ad still running

It almost mid-February and the position(s) are still open at this outfit.It goes to show no self-respecting pilot wants to be exposed to the kind of degradation and liability that is occuring at this outfit.

This outfit might have to wait a long time to fill their positions!!!!!!

 

[G-force]

CFI openings

This outfit is also looking for CFI's(plural).Best advice,look elsewhere!!!!

 

[climbhappy]

flawed logic

one cannot deduce simply by virtue of an ad, running longer than whatever variable you have assigned to it as acceptable, to mean that somehow this "outfit" as you call it , is not worthy of of consideration.

questions to ponder"

what if they left the ad in , but filled the positions. most ads are for thirty days or weekly.
what if they like having a file of potential candidates?
do you know anything about them other than they run an ad?

Can you really base a conclusion on one opinion. You can't

if you're conducting research on suitable places to work, you might want to go the library and do some research yourself on how to conduct a study using proper research methods.

For example, you'll need to do a national study of all operators. you'll need to pull accident data on all the operators in the nation and determine if there are any links to region or climate. you'll have to determine the training of all the pilots who work for these outifts to find if there is a correlation to how they were trained. were they civ or military.

if the data you've acquired on operators places this augusta outfit in a certain category containing questionable data, then you need to start research on every one in this group to find common elements causing this negative opinion.

what is the diet of most all of these pilots? does consuming the typical overnight quantiy of three beers ,or whatever the Delta Captain had ,affect the outcome of all these flights?

What are the files on all the mechaincs? how many of them are divorced. How does emotional problems affect work performance?


You see, there are so many variables to consider G-Force, when making conclusions on such matters that you cannot possibly have done the work?

if you have, you must enlighten all of us with this data. we'll inspect it to see if your research methods are correct and proper, while meeting all scientific standards.

Have you even conducted an informal poll? Why not stand outside the door at all the natios FBOS and talk to passengers getting off these flights? Why not talk to all the pilots who fly these airplanes to get their opinion for your study?

I suggest making blanket statements like "they're looking for plural CFI's ' and somehow this means they're dangerous, is RUBBISH.

 

[mcjohn]

Augusta is my home town where I grew up. DNL is a very family run airport and a very blue collar deep south kind of atmosphere all around except for all the millionaires that keep planes there. There are more doctor and lawyer redneck pilots there than you can imagine but DNL is by far on the nicest edge of town. I don't know anything about Augusta Aviation but if the owners are the same family that own the airport/FBO then that explains everything.

Yeah, I have to agree with the other fellow there G-force. You have a loooong uphill battle if you want to start judging all the on-demand 135 operators out there. From what I hear, the FAA rarely wastes their time doing that especially if it's cargo.

 

[G-force]

Credible Opinion

Augusta is my home town where I grew up. DNL is a very family run airport and a very blue collar deep south kind of atmosphere all around except for all the millionaires that keep planes there. There are more doctor and lawyer redneck pilots there than you can imagine but DNL is by far on the nicest edge of town. I don't know anything about Augusta Aviation but if the owners are the same family that own the airport/FBO then that explains everything.

Yeah, I have to agree with the other fellow there G-force. You have a loooong uphill battle if you want to start judging all the on-demand 135 operators out there. From what I hear, the FAA rarely wastes their time doing that especially if it's cargo.

Dude,what you are saying is that the CP's opinion on this outfit does not seem to matter at all.
We have a difference of opinion!!!!!

 

[climbhappy]

g force,

it is written, let the truth be established by two or three witnesses.

you only have one, therefore it can't be true.

you need to do your homework, before you lash out.

an ad with cfi's plural is hardly cause to go running through cyberspace

chanting, "the sky is falling at DNL"

 

[hiropilot]

mis-informed post

G-force,

As someone that works at Augusta Aviation, I would like to ask you to stop bashing a company that you know very little about. You stated that the CP told you the reasons not to work here, hmmm - the DO and CP are the same person at our company. This particular individual that made these comments to you would have been the one to make sure that all those items are complied with. So if there was a problem, it was him.
I came to work here not long after the time you referenced. My experience has been that the company strives to take care of it's employees. Never in the time that I have been here has someone tried to get me to bust a duty day. I have turned down flights for various reasons on a couple of occasions and not a word was said. If there is any problem with an aircraft, it doesn't get dispatched - again, no questions, it goes to maintenance.
It is true that we have two ads running on find a pilot. We recently had a charter pilot leave that did so for personal reasons. It happens. We are also looking for two CFI's as well; we keep losing them to the airlines. Gee, we must be doing something right. Most recently, one of our CFI's got hired with 600 total and less than 100 multi solely because of the exposure to charter. There is a growing demand for pilots by the airlines and this equates to a pilot doing flight instruction to build time will not have to spend a long time teaching before moving on.
I especially find it interesting that you seem to know so much about a company based upon a conversation over two years ago with a dis-gruntled pilot. There is more to the story with him, but I will not stoop so low as to air that laundry here. Suffice it to say that he left under questionable circumstances.
Having said all that, I must insist that you cease the company bashing and ask that you retract your statements. I would be more than happy to talk to you personally and give you the facts about our company and you may come to realize that you missed out on a fantastic opportunity.

Thank you to the other posters that defended us without knowing us.

Good day to all.


"Excellence is the pursuit, Perfection is the goal, Murphy is the reality!"
(author unknown)

 

[G-force]

Company Line

G-force,

As someone that works at Augusta Aviation, I would like to ask you to stop bashing a company that you know very little about. You stated that the CP told you the reasons not to work here, hmmm - the DO and CP are the same person at our company. This particular individual that made these comments to you would have been the one to make sure that all those items are complied with. So if there was a problem, it was him.
I came to work here not long after the time you referenced. My experience has been that the company strives to take care of it's employees. Never in the time that I have been here has someone tried to get me to bust a duty day. I have turned down flights for various reasons on a couple of occasions and not a word was said. If there is any problem with an aircraft, it doesn't get dispatched - again, no questions, it goes to maintenance.
It is true that we have two ads running on find a pilot. We recently had a charter pilot leave that did so for personal reasons. It happens. We are also looking for two CFI's as well; we keep losing them to the airlines. Gee, we must be doing something right. Most recently, one of our CFI's got hired with 600 total and less than 100 multi solely because of the exposure to charter. There is a growing demand for pilots by the airlines and this equates to a pilot doing flight instruction to build time will not have to spend a long time teaching before moving on.
I especially find it interesting that you seem to know so much about a company based upon a conversation over two years ago with a dis-gruntled pilot. There is more to the story with him, but I will not stoop so low as to air that laundry here. Suffice it to say that he left under questionable circumstances.
Having said all that, I must insist that you cease the company bashing and ask that you retract your statements. I would be more than happy to talk to you personally and give you the facts about our company and you may come to realize that you missed out on a fantastic opportunity.

Thank you to the other posters that defended us without knowing us.

Good day to all.


"Excellence is the pursuit, Perfection is the goal, Murphy is the reality!"
(author unknown)

Hey Dude,the CP here(until Jan.2005) was someone that I have known since
the mid 1980's and was and is a very competent pilot.
You,on the other hand seem to be the cyberspace PR company mouthpiece for this outfit.
I would value the former CP's opinion,whom I knew and flew with(on occasion) far above the opinion of someone like you who is just spouting the Company Line!!!

 

[mcjohn]

G-force, you're a punk and some sort of odd baiter. Get a life. I've met more incompetent CPs who were great pilots but very incompetent CPs. Being a good CP has much more to it than just flying skills you idiot.

Your posting style is that of a child.......dude.

 

[climbhappy]

spend less time denigrating 135 outifts and more time working

g-force,
get a job and go to work instead of slamming everybody that does!

you'd find you have less time for this garbage.

 

[TrailerTrash]

Climbmaggot

g-force,
get a job and go to work instead of slamming everybody that does!

you'd find you have less time for this garbage.

Ditto,stop bothering other professional pilots and move on with your own career.If you have any problems with g-force please address them to the trash man.Line guys rule.

 

[Flywrite]

Looks like G-Force found a boyfriend...

 

[atppilot]

what BS!!!!!!!!!!!1

i realize this is an old post but i just wanyed to say that i was the CP/DO that everyone is talking about. while Augusta Aviation was not my favorite place in the world i can assure you i never told anyone bad stuff about. especially since most of the stuff you are talking about would have got me the CP/DO checkairman in trouble. just shows what kind of BS and lies are on this board!!

 

[hiropilot]

Actually, you aren't the person being discussed as the DO/CP...It was your predecessor. I understand that things weren't great while you were here - sometimes the personalities just don't mesh well and what seems like a good deal at first actually isn't for one person and is better than anticipated for another.
Right now we have a pretty good group of pilots and things are going well.

 

[G-force]

This place is currently running an ad at jsfirm.com for pilots flying C90A Kingairs,a very old model!!! They also do NOT mention the pay scales either!!!!!!!

 

[G-force]

Have seen another ad on jsfirm.com for C90A pilot!!!! this outfit is another one that just cannot keep qualified pilots!!!!!