ATR: 'A lot of interest' in potential larger turboprop

[jonjuan]

Are you sure?

Yep. Do you know what Canards are?

 

[ackattacker]

Yep. Do you know what Canards are?

Sorry jonjuan, but while Piaggio does not like to call them canards this is mostly a P.R. ploy since they don't want to be associated with the Beech Starship.

The Piaggio is not a "canard configuration" since the forward wings are not horizontal stabilizers. Nontheless the proper name for those lifting surfaces is canards.

Main Entry:ca·nard
Pronunciation: \kə-ˈnärd also -ˈnär\ Function:noun Etymology:French, literally, duck; in sense 1, from Middle French vendre des canards à moitié to cheat, literally, to half-sell ducksDate:1851 1 a: a false or unfounded report or story ; especially : a fabricated report b: a groundless rumor or belief2: an airplane with horizontal stabilizing and control surfaces in front of supporting surfaces ; also : a small airfoil in front of the wing of an aircraft that can increase the aircraft's performance

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Yep. Do you know what Canards are?

So what is that wing-thingy on the front, if it's not a canard?

Noseron? Schnozzervator?

 

[Flybywire44]

Canard (aeronautics), flight control surfaces mounted at the front of an aircraft or an aircraft bearing such surfaces

 

[JFReservist]

They are forward wings, equipped with flaps... not canards.

Semantics, maybe, but its a great design and a terrific plane.

 

[jonjuan]

If so, why has no one other than avantair operated the thing? 350 knots at 1,100 nm isn't pretty.

 

[goodgig]

If so, why has no one other than avantair operated the thing? 350 knots at 1,100 nm isn't pretty.

Might be more attractive when fuel hits over $10/gallon. Not a matter of if, but when.

 

[Geronimo4497]

350 knots at 1,100 nm isn't pretty.

I think it is very pretty when you burn less than 2000lbs of gas on that 3:15 minute journey.

 

[belchfire]

If so, why has no one other than avantair operated the thing? 350 knots at 1,100 nm isn't pretty.

What, 3:15 is about 30 minutes longer than a 73 would take to do the same trip. An updated Electra should be part of oborat's stimulus package!

Of course Mesa will get them for Go! and pay the crews Be-1900 scale...

 

[AftCG182]

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[hyper]

If so, why has no one other than avantair operated the thing? 350 knots at 1,100 nm isn't pretty.

...Because they have had contracts locking up slots for others resulting in a 2yr+ delivery period.

Avantair operates at a reduced 785 max ITT. Conserves fuel and who cares about the extra time on the machines for fracs. Operate close to max ITT as most others do, and 380-395 is the norm and 1,200 to 1,300nm is not uncommon; all on 100gals p/h.