ATP Written

[Problow]

For someone that is Part 91, would you guys recommed the 135 or 121 written. And has anyone used the ATP one day prep and test for $295. Is this worth it or just get the book and do it yourself. Thanks

 

[Mercury]

Not sure if the 121 or 135 version really matters much but FWIW, I did the 2 day deal for my written at ATP in RDU and it was worth it to me. Spent most of day one studying, took abreak for dinner, went back for about 2 more hours that night. On day 2 by about 11am I was bored out of my mind so I took the test and ended up with a 96%.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

HOLD OFF on taking the ATP exam!

First off, if you decide to study and take it on your own, hold off for a few weeks. Apprarently the FAA is in the process of changing the test material. I took the 121 a couple of years ago and Gleim still sends me email updates. I've posted their most recent below.

When I took it, I used the Gleim book and software to help pass the test. Their products are pretty effective and I ended up scoring a 99%. ALLATPS (ATP, Inc. - I know) has "their" own version of the ATP test where they widdle down the questions. You wont learn or reatin much by doing their crash course over a couple of days but chances are you will pass. My advice would be to actually study the material and understand it before taking it. If you're looking for the quick and easy, then ALLATPS would be the way to go.

Dear XXXXXXX:

Gleim Publications has recently learned of upcoming changes in the FAA's ATP knowledge test question bank which will go into effect February 12, 2007. Please read the following material so that you can determine what subject matter you should be studying depending on when you are planning to take the test.

1. Currently, the FAA gives you an option: You may take either a Part 121 or a Part 135 ATP knowledge test. The Part 121 exam tests only Part 121 regulations, and the Part 135 exam tests only Part 135 regulations. NOTE: If you are studying for the ATP airplane add-on rating (ARA) (i.e., you are already a helicopter ATP), you only have the Part 135 option.

a. Study suggestions if you are taking the ATP knowledge test BEFORE February 12, 2007:

1) Part 121 knowledge test -- Study all study units except Study Unit 4.
2) Part 135 knowledge test -- Study all study units except Study Unit 3.

2. Please be aware that if you are taking the test BEFORE February 12, 2007, you will see some performance Part 121 questions on the Part 135 test and vice versa. Therefore, we suggest that you study all the performance questions (Study Units 10-13), regardless of which test you plan on taking.

a. Approximately 20% of Part 121 applicants will see questions on the Beech 1900 (Study Unit 10); those that choose not to study the Beech 1900 questions should have the skills and resources to answer the questions, but will lack familiarity.

b. Approximately 20% of Part 135 applicants will see questions on the DC-9, Boeing 737, or Boeing 727 (Study Units 11-13); those that choose not to study these questions should have the skills and resources to answer the questions, but will lack familiarity.

3. Changes in the FAA knowledge test question bank will occur as of February 12, 2007. The FAA will be changing the knowledge test question bank to reflect specific aircraft study for specific ratings.

In other words, if you are taking the test AFTER February 12, 2007, the Part 121 and Part 135 ATP exams will have only the correct performance questions for the specific rating that you are testing for.

a. Study suggestions if you are taking the ATP knowledge test AFTER February 12, 2007:

1) ATP and ADX applicants -- Exclude Study Units 4 and 10.
2) ATA applicants -- Exclude Study Units 3 and 11-13.
3) ARA applicants -- Exclude Study Units 3 and 11-17.

b. The following information applies to Test Prep and Online Ground School (OGS) users: In order to see all possible questions that will apply to your rating if you are taking the test BEFORE February 12, 2007, you must use the expanded question set (shown as ATP-EX and ATA-EX). If you are using ATP, ATA, ARA, or ADX, you will not see all possible airplane questions as explained in "2" above.

1) ATP and ADX applicants -- Use the ATP-EX question set.
2) ATA and ARA applicants -- Use the ATA-EX question set.

To change your question set in Test Prep:
Click "Customize Exam Options" from the main menu.
Select the exam subset you wish to study.
Click "Done."

To change OGS so that you have access to the expanded question sets, you will need to start the new and improved 2007 Online Ground School. Please note you will not receive credit for any work you completed in the old course. You will begin as a new user.

If you are taking the test AFTER February 12, 2007, you should use the unexpanded question set (shown as ATP, ATA, ARA, and ADX).

Thank you for your patience. We wish you all of the best in your continued studies. If you have any questions, please call us at (800) 874-5346, ext 471.

Thank you and have a great day!

Michael A. Russell, CFII
Aviation Training Consultant

Gleim Publications, Inc.
4201 NW 95th Blvd
Gainesville, FL 32606
(800) 874-5346
FAX (888) 375-6940

Hours: Mon-Fri 8am-7pm, Sat 9am-2pm EST

 

[BWatz]

Try these guys.. They have excellent customer service. I highly recomend them. http://www.sheppardair.com/

 

[FR8FO]

I did my ATP written at ATP's one day $295 course. I would highly recommend that but that was also 4 years ago. They didn't give you a choice, you only took the 121

 

[uncle]

Did the 1 day ATP course for $295...Well worth it. It took 4 hours - prep and test. I was a full-time CFI with a wife and kids. The time saved was well worth the money. Would do it again in a heart beat.

 

[NW Flyer]

Passed mine with the ATP 1 day course, no big deal.

 

[stratman560]

Considered doing ALLATPS. Used the Gliem book instead. Got an 86%, saved over $200 and was glad I did it that way. Probably could have gotten a higher score with ATPS but it doesn't really matter now. Either way is adequate, I just happened to use the book. Good luck.

 

[willNOTfly4free]

I studied the Gleim for two weeks in between my college classes. Scored a 100% and saved over 200 buck-a-roos.

 

[Problow]

thanx for the responses

 

[Loco Gringo]

www.checkride.com great software, works good, lots of features and it is about the same cost as a print study guide and allot quicker (3 days of study for the FEX and made high 90s) and saved big $$$ over ALLATP. You can down load and try the software (limited to 50 questions) before you buy it.

 

[Windsor]

buy the book. spend few hours studying/memorizing. then take test. easy stuff. dont waste $$ on a class.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Take the 121, it has higher average scores.

 

[SEVEN]

Took it just a couple of weeks ago at ATP in Chicago. Course is still $295 and they only offer the 121. The bank of questions you have to study is 540. If you have the time and don't want to spend the $ just buy the book and take your time. But if you want to get it out of the way in one day with no studying in advance I would recommend ATP. It makes for a long day but it was worth it for me.

 

[hiflyer731]

I took the 121 ATP written, but got my ATP rating part 135. Your score really makes no difference as long as you pass, unless it's a pride thing. I did my ATP ride, Citation type ride, and Part 135 ride all at once at Flight Safety. The examiner just asked if i passed and didn't even look at the results until the entire ride was done.

 

[avmaviator]

I took the 121 ATP written, but got my ATP rating part 135. Your score really makes no difference as long as you pass, unless it's a pride thing. I did my ATP ride, Citation type ride, and Part 135 ride all at once at Flight Safety. The examiner just asked if i passed and didn't even look at the results until the entire ride was done.

So it doesn't really matter which one you take?
I am planning on taking it next week because I am going to type school and hope to do the same as Hiflyer731, of getting the ATP, the type, and the 135 ride at once.

AM

 

[av8orboy]

Go to ATP's. I just did it in Vegas. It's worth the $. I didn't study a thing before I went, sat there for 8.5 hours and got a 98%.

 

[A-V-8]

Try these guys.. They have excellent customer service. I highly recomend them. http://www.sheppardair.com/

$75. 90% or higher or your money back. Same as the ATP but you do it at home. Make sure you print off the ATP memorization aid. You will learn all of the performance in about 15 minutes. You won't even have to read the questions.