RIDETHELIGHTING
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I can't imagine the powder keg of anger that would explode if this is blocked by the MEC.
Problem is some of us are getting the feeling that a few on our MEC have already decided that they are going to turn down the AIP.
If they get their way, we are never going to see it
I trust the folks on the MC. I don't really trust my MEC.
*snerk*Just a couple of weeks ago, everyone said that they trust their MEC. When the MEC was making crazy decisions like recalling officers and committee chairmen, everyone said "well, we trust them, so I guess it's ok." But now suddenly the trust has disappeared? It seems that trust if very fleeting for some of you.
Rather than shut the whole thing down, couldn't they have suspended the offenders from posting for some amount of time?
I haven't heard of a 458.2.a.2 complaint being filed before regarding a message board issue with the DoL.
Do you have a case to cite? I'd be curious to know what prior precedent there is for such an issue, as ALPA isn't required to have a separate internet message board apart from the ALPA board (which is still up but no one uses) and has the right to either have an external one, not have one, or put it up and pull it down at their discretion.
With the ALPA server board still up and running on the ALPA site, you'd have a hard time citing lack of freedom of speech per the OLMS guidelines...
Well of course you can ban someone, the problem comes in what you ban them for, requiring a seconding opinion on the board rule that they violated and does the punishment fit the crime, etc, plus common enforcement for everyone who does the same thing.
You have to get pretty far out of whack to get banned from an ALPA forum, but people were pushing the limit.
My point was you can't single out individuals and ban or suspend them.
Sure you can, as long as they've violated the Terms and Conditions of Use more than once after being warned. Those terms include anything that could jeopardize ALPA's legal obligations. It's not just advocating illegal self help. That legal obligations provision allows a wide latitude for determining when someone is in violation, and it could easily be argued that a lot of the stuff that was being said on the web board could violate those legal obligations by causing problems for the SLI negotiations. The MEC could easily delete posts and suspend members' access for violations without taking down the whole web board.