atlas interview process?

[Kruger Stellman]

130K base flying a 747 around the world, with tough schedules.....yea I think that is crap pay. You should be making alot more. Extra days do not count...1k per day is cheap for more time away from family with crummy schedules. Is that 130K base starting pay or the max you can hope for? ie: does everyone make 130K or do you start on food stamps (crap pay)?

Beats flipping burgers at Micky D's, or 40k/year for flying an RJ for 5 legs a day. But then again there are plenty of the old 300K/year jobs out there flying right? I heard from a friend that heard from his friend that FedEx is hiring direct entry Captain seats for the $246/hr highest paying seat left in the industry. I am sure that Bill Gates and Warren Buffet think they should be making more per hour also. My advise to you is to go back to school and become an attorney!

 

[trap]

Hey ... You don't have to be a prick ALL the time. And nobody here is asking for your moronic advice -- so don't give it.

 

[Kruger Stellman]

Hey ... You don't have to be a prick ALL the time. And nobody here is asking for your moronic advice -- so don't give it.

Hey I’m not the one posting all of the derogatory comments about Atlas here. Atlas has been very good to me for the past 12 years, the best aviation job I have had in the 40 years of flying airplanes for a living. All I am saying is that no one is forcing anyone to hire on here. If you can find something better, then by all means go for it.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Nitefr8dog:
Please list the major Terms and Conditions of your present job, or the job that you aspire to. I have no idea what you are comparing Atlas to...some pie-in-the-sky non-airline job, maybe???

Or just list your top 10 airline jobs so we can compare them with Atlas.

cliff
LFW

 

[Captain Morgan]

Hi!

Nitefr8dog:
Please list the major Terms and Conditions of your present job, or the job that you aspire to. I have no idea what you are comparing Atlas to...some pie-in-the-sky non-airline job, maybe???

Or just list your top 10 airline jobs so we can compare them with Atlas.

cliff
LFW

I think he was aspiring to Pan Am (circa. 1972.) I think many people have made up pay rates in their mind that they still believe are around based on old contracts and airlines. If you look around, not many people are pulling down more than 100k-150k a year. Times have 'a' changed and you can either roll with it and attempt to make it better, or drive yourself crazy.

 

[nitefr8dog]

Hi!

Nitefr8dog:
Please list the major Terms and Conditions of your present job, or the job that you aspire to. I have no idea what you are comparing Atlas to...some pie-in-the-sky non-airline job, maybe???

Or just list your top 10 airline jobs so we can compare them with Atlas.

cliff
LFW

So Cliff, it seems if I do not agree with I have no right to my opinion? The number of days away from family, tough schedules flying all around the world, type of equipment being flown (you are not flying RJ's)...I think the pay is bad (crap). Ask the guys at ATLAS if they are overpaid let me know what they say!... My guess is on their next contract go around they will ask for a raise... but I am just guessing. As far as my top 10... I only have 3, FDX, UPS, Southwest. That is if I was looking. I would not start over at 45k and 17 to 20 days away per month...but that's just me.

 

[Kruger Stellman]

So Cliff, it seems if I do not agree with I have no right to my opinion? The number of days away from family, tough schedules flying all around the world, type of equipment being flown (you are not flying RJ's)...I think the pay is bad (crap). Ask the guys at ATLAS if they are overpaid let me know what they say!... My guess is on their next contract go around they will ask for a raise... but I am just guessing. As far as my top 10... I only have 3, FDX, UPS, Southwest. That is if I was looking. I would not start over at 45k and 17 to 20 days away per month...but that's just me.

I am a 12-year Captain at Atlas, would I like more pay, sure who doesn’t want more pay. Do I think that we are going to ask for a pay raise in the new contract? This question does not take a brain surgeon to figure out. Do I think we will get a pay raise in the next contract? That is an entirely different story. All of the major carriers have asked for and received pay concessions from their crew members in the last couple of years. Like Cliff and Captain Morgan said in their posts, the day of the 300K a year airline pilot is gone. Could thing be better at Atlas? Absolutely, and our union negotiation members are working hard for it. But from my point of view, this is a pretty good gig.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I agree that DAL/FedEx and UPS are better than Atlas, though now it is tougher to say, as upgrade to capt at Atlas will be quicker than the above, probably by a LOT.

DAL pay is almost the same as Atlas, and if Atlas guys want to fly more, my guess is that they can make more than DAL guys. So, that leaves UPS as better paying for the same equipment. Or, you can go overseas and some places you can make more on the 747.

I think being the 2nd highest paid 747 operator in the country, and one of the highest paying airline jobs, means it is NOT crap pay.

Now, you CAN argue that, for the schedule, the pay is "not fair", which I totally understand. I would love the schedule, but it's definitely not for everyone. I would really prefer a max of 2 month trips, or less. Am trying to get a new job where that will be possible, and still make decent pay. It is NOT easy to find!

cliff
LFW

 

[ABUSED PILOT]

In this day and age to get a job at Atlas is something to wish for. There are alot of people working more days for alot less. Sure we all would like to work 10 days a month,but thats not going to happen. The Airline I work for has be very good to my family. 16 days a month away per month is the price we pay to live very well. Go try and find a job that pays $135.000.00 per year. and alot more when you game the system. If you look around and see the mess at AMR and USAIR its just not that bad.

 

[LJ45SNA]

Atlas Technical

What exactly do they ask on the technical? Do you have to study for it or have ref. books available like Ace, and Wx and runway and light charts and expanations. Will you have time to reference these?

 

[LJ45SNA]

Also are you gone for 3 months in training with no chance to go home and see your family? Or do they give you some weekends off to go home?

 

[spitfire1500]

Weekend?? Whats that!!

 

[Classicdriver]

Also are you gone for 3 months in training with no chance to go home and see your family? Or do they give you some weekends off to go home?

You will be in MIA for 9 weeks. There are some breaks, maybe two or three days off, so it depends on how close you live to MIA. You will most likely have some time off between MIA and IOE on the line, anywhere from a week to three or four weeks, depending on how backed up the training is.

 

[av8trinabarrel]

I got a 56 on that test. Wow...that thing was tough. I studied the ATP written for an evening and that did absolutely no good. Haven't heard a peep and certainly don't plan on a call with a bomb score like that. Best of luck to you guys. It would have been fun flying the 74 again.

To think a master level score is a 65%!!!! Ouch. If SDSU would've had a grading curve like that when I was there, I would have been an A student

 

[CaptSeth]

I got a 78 but they told me to pound sand, so don't feel bad.

 

[Bull]

Tec

For the Tec Assessment here are few questions as I can remember them.
1. Rwy centerline lights last three thousand remaining? ( color)
2. Symbole for moderate icing
3. Symbole for sever squal line
4. On ILS31 JFK max hold speed in the hold
5. Final approach fix on the ILS31 JFK?
6. Final approach fix on the ILS31 G/S INOP JFK?
7. CAT1 approach on short final WX 1600RVR in all zones. Regarding Approch Ban? to continue or go around?
8. FL310, speed 540kts, desending to 16,000ft. How much time?
9. Metar winds reports are true or megnatic?
10. Metar winds if light and variable defination?
12. TAF from what time to what time winds will be XYZ station?
13. TAF from what time to what time it will be MIFG?
14. Balance field lenths? for wet rwy? how much correction can you take to reduce your V1?
14. when you are desending to altitude, you set what? QNE? QNF? QNH?
15. When you are climbing to FL ,you set what? QNH? QNE? QNF?
16. Question about current barramatric pressure calculation on a given day?
17. How to find ISA Temp at given altitude.( FL310 temp-40c)
18. symbole "V" means what? verga? Fog? volcanic ash? etc
19. what is secreen height? on given rwy?
20. Two engine climb gradient?
21. Given wind speed and direction on approach, want to know if can expact different rwy with wind limit of 10kts tail wind? can you accept?
22. JFK chart (10-9) airport diagram want to know about enroute clearnce? (which statement is true) basicaly you need route clearnce before you request for taxi.
23. TAF wind direction is true or megnatic?
24. Jet engine bleed air valves are used for what? pick a statment.
25. On JFK approach chart for ILS31 and asked you are in hold and you lost your radio, when will you depart hold? (two answers are similar) pick the one which says depart hold close to the EFC.
26. On JFK approach chart ask when will you start the approach if given this clearnce etc?


I can't remember the rest but its NOT BAD as this board said it was. Good Luck guys.

EXCUSE ANY SPELLING ERRORS I have not slept for 22 hours gift of long haul flying....

 

[Bull]

Tec

Just remembered couple more questions.

27. RVSM airspace seperation and flight levels?
28. LRC if you have 50kts head wind what will you do? in order to meet the profile?
29. SLOP what is the deviation on each side and who has the authority?
30. If RVR is in effect what is controling? Do you need deck cealing or just vis?
31. Out of zurich read some TAF forcast vis? ( make sure you pick the one in knots not km)? JAR ops
32. Again another zurich TAF to find out what will be the weather in certain time window....e.i Becoming, Tempo, etc
33. Ops Spec can you ammend your approach mins?

Sorry now I am drawing blank again. Hope this helps. And best of wishes. Atlas is a great company. I am really impressed. Good Luck.

 

[T B O N E]

Holy powers of retention Batman! My memory sucks. I remembered a total of 2 or 3 questions.

 

[teeb57]

Yup, me too. Probably cuz most of that stuff is done for us every day

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

That sounds like a pretty tough exam, but considering the kind of flying Atlas does, the places they go, etc., maybe not entirely out of line. Especially if they have thousands of guys to weed through, and only a handful of positions on offer.

Folks can argue all day long about where the best jobs are, but when it comes to people, the guys who fly International, ACMI ops are as good as anybody out there. They are, because they have to be.