atlas air new ceo announced

[Classicdriver]

United fuloughed pilots are very aware of the Polar story. I just had lunch with a guy that's been told to expect a large recall within a month of a Polar/United deal closing. He said they still have guys fuloughed with DOH around '95-'96. Heck, Polar started in '93.

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

United fuloughed pilots are very aware of the Polar story. I just had lunch with a guy that's been told to expect a large recall within a month of a Polar/United deal closing. He said they still have guys fuloughed with DOH around '95-'96. Heck, Polar started in '93.

If there are any 96 furloughees at United they are by choice. My buddy got recalled to United two months ago and he was a late 99 hire.

EDIT: Just spoke with him, most junior guy that he knows for sure that has accepted recall is March 2000 DOH. Anybody still on furlough with a higher seniority than that is out by their own choice(Bypassed recall).

 

[Classicdriver]

If there are any 96 furloughees at United they are by choice. My buddy got recalled to United two months ago and he was a late 99 hire.

EDIT: Just spoke with him, most junior guy that he knows for sure that has accepted recall is March 2000 DOH. Anybody still on furlough with a higher seniority than that is out by their own choice(Bypassed recall).

Agreed. This guy has bypassed once to stay with the military. I believe his DOH is around '98. His squadron has quit a few folks in the same boat.

 

[Whale Rider]

United fuloughed pilots are very aware of the Polar story. I just had lunch with a guy that's been told to expect a large recall within a month of a Polar/United deal closing. He said they still have guys fuloughed with DOH around '95-'96. Heck, Polar started in '93.

I'm sorry, you talk like this is a new rumor. Its very very old!....

 

[furloughfodder]

Polar has not furloughed anyone yet. They have announced that furloughs will probably not start until June, but they won't be able to fulough very many at a time because they have to retrain all the senior pilots from the Classic to the -400.

They are telling us the furloughs will be drawn out through the rest of the year. They are only able to train two classes of 8 each per month. The first class of 8 began on May 1st. You do the math, but we have figured at this rate it will take them at least 10 months to train everyone over and furlough the last guy, and that is if everything goes perfect in the training department.

Anyway, this is all just some and mirrors IMHO. There will be an announcement probably in June, probably from the new CEO of the Polar Sale.

If it is UAL, they have the capacity to train 50+ per month and only have 550 or so on furlough. They could absorb the Polar pilot group (300 pilots) without even blinking.

It is my understanding that they will still have to keep the Polar certificate seperate in order to keep the routes, but I am sure there is a way around that.

 

[belchfire]

My understanding is that if there was a way around the Polar certificates/route issue the current owner would have done
it...

 

[furloughfodder]

I agree belchfire. But I think there is a big difference between allowing Atlas to aquire those route authorities versus UAL. Atlas has a pretty bad reputation (as far as on time performance, and reliability). The governments of Japan and the US might make an exception for a larger company like UAL.

All just speculation of course.

 

[heilhaavir]

Why not Astar? A holding just like AAWH and they can keep the PO name with half the fleet and play the same games with 3 airlines .... I guess we'll all find out soon enough

Good luck PO guys & girls

 

[Classicdriver]

Atlas has a pretty bad reputation (as far as on time performance, and reliability). The governments of Japan and the US might make an exception for a larger company like UAL.

More Polar propaganda...........
Last 12 months:
Polar Total departures....6635, delays...165, 97.51% ontime
Atlas Total departures..18424, delays...525, 97.15% ontime

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

Polar...........97.51% ontime
Atlas...........97.15% ontime

Propaganda??!!.........Why it is plain to anyone with a pair of eyes!!!.......Atlas was .36% less on time than Polar was.........just awful...awful I say!!!