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I flew with an FO who's on Atkins' no-carb diet. He's doing it to reduce his blood pressure and lower his cholesterol.

My understanding is you pig out on fat-stuff with no carbs, but touch nothing with carbs.

Would this potentially be a good thing long-term for pilots? Why/why not? Anyone else know anything about it?
 
Someone just came out with a study that suggests that this type of diet is good for long term weight management and good health.

The diet is low carbs and high protein. You need some carbs or your body will have big problems. You also can have potassium problems on this diet as most everything with potassium in it has carbs.

I've spent a few weeks from time to time on the diet, and although I don't enjoy eating protein all the time, I was very energetic and was able to get up in the early morning without coffee and go.
 
There is a diet close to the Atkins diet, its called protien "Protien Power Plan", I think you can find the book in most major book stores, it explains what you need to do and what suppliments to take.

It explains along with others about the potasium deficiency about the plan, and to take vitamin K.

The diet does work, you do lower your colesterol and blood pressure. It has also cured people of diabetis.

The reason that there is so much controversy on this subject is becuase it goes against every "learned" nutritional concept that we know today.

There is alot of info on this diet, I would suggest finding the book on the Protien Power Plan or find more on the Atkins diet, they are very simualar diets.
 
The jury's still out on the Atkins diet's efficacy and long-term health effects, in large part due to resistance from the AMA's inflexible mindset--as research studies on ideas which run counter to prevailing AMA "doctrine" are quite difficult to get funded. The diet is difficult to maintain for those who have to eat out a lot (like pilots), because so much of the American food industry revolves around carbohydrates--and not for the reasons you'd think; it has more to do with the agriculture and food manufacturing industries than anything else. The diet itself is unrestricted fats and proteins, accompanied by daily vitamin and fish oil supplements. Carbohydrate intake is limited to <20g during the first two weeks (known as the "induction diet", intended to jolt your body into what Atkins calls "benign dietary ketosis"); afterward, carbs are gradually reintroduced to the diet until an individual's "balance point" is reached, that which sustains ketosis.

The theory behind ketosis and the Atkins diet in general is that carbohydrates are far more easily converted to blood glucose, your body's fuel source, than dietary fats or proteins. Given a choice between carbs, fats and proteins, your body will first turn to DIETARY carbs, then BODY fat, then BODY protein for energy. (Fats and proteins are not readily converted to blood glucose and have other dietary functions, anyway. More on that later.) On a carbohydrate-rich diet, your body maintains a blood glucose level of 2 or 3 days' worth. Carbohydrates in excess of that needed to maintain this level are stored as body fat. When carbohydrate intake is severely restricted, blood glucose levels begin to drop as your body depletes its supply.

Once blood glucose levels drop below a certain point (and in the absence of your body's preferred source of blood glucose--carbohydrates), your body turns to its stores of body fat and begins to convert it to blood glucose. The breakdown of body fat into blood glucose--a process called ketosis--produces a byproduct called a ketone which your body eliminates through urination (one reason why water intake is a large part of this or any diet--your body needs to get rid of those ketones). In diabetics, ketosis is a precursor to a condition called ketoacidosis, which can lead to coma and death. Because the presence of excess ketones is a serious condition for diabetics, urine test strips which detect the volume of ketones in urine are widely available at most drug stores. For low-carb dieters, these test strips are useful in determining when your body has turned to stored body fat for energy--and in determining your body's carbohydrate balance point when carbs are reintroduced to the diet.

According to Atkins, the irony to all the low-fat diets is that dietary fat doesn't make a person fat--excess carbohydrates do, as explained above. Dietary fat is necessary for absorption of the fat-soluble vitamins (Vitamins A, E, D and K) and also controls our sense of satiety; in his book, Atkins points out how most people, after a large meal of pasta or other carbs usually crave sweets, whereas after consuming a steak, they don't crave anything. And since the Atkins diet is a qualitative one rather than quantitative (meaning that WHAT you eat is at issue, not how much--you can eat all the fats and proteins you want on this diet), this appetite satiety effect means that after a while, people tend to begin eating less, which also contributes to weight loss.

Now, as this pertains to pilots and medical certificates, Atkins--a cardiologist by training--says his patients have seen improvements in their cholesterol levels as a result of the diet. This is the most controversial aspect of the Atkins diet as the AMA has long held that dietary fat intake is bad for your cholesterol levels and by extension, your heart. This is the area which begs for more research--which, like I said, is less likely to be funded since high fat intake is so strongly connected to poor cholesterol numbers in the AMA mindset.

The other medical aspect important to pilots is the diet's effect on blood glucose-related problems, specifically Type II Diabetes--which is usually the kiss of death for a pilot's medical certificate. Atkins claims that his patients with glucose tolerance problems, even those which rise to the level of diagnosable Type II Diabetes, have been able to reduce or eliminate symptoms of these problems, even to the point of being no longer diagnosable.

Aside from that, many healthy people experience mild symptoms of glucose intolerance. On a typical carb-rich diet, I'd "bottom-out" a couple hours after lunch every afternoon, usually using caffeine to perk back up. I then tried restricting carbs for a couple days to see if I felt any effect, and in the middle of the afternoon on the third day, it occurred to me that I was not the least bit tired or fatigued as usual for me at that time of day. As a glucose tolerance test later bore out (recommended by Atkins in his book), I have a mild glucose intolerance, which means that for a given rise in blood glucose levels brought on by intake of sugar or other carbs, my body produces too much insulin--which causes too much blood glucose to be metabolized, resulting in that tired or fatigued feeling. Restricting carbs in the diet seems to have the effect of stabilizing blood glucose levels, stemming those wide swings and raising one's general feeling of alertness, as chperplt experienced.

Anyway, that's my take on it. I'm no expert, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :D
 
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Yeah, I agree with what he (VFR on Top) said. I lost 30 pounds on the Adkins diet a couple of years ago while doing airline flying. The only caution I have about starting it while flying is to make sure you have some days off when you do start it. I was fine until day three of the first week, when I crashed - big time. I started three days before Thanksgiving in 2000 and on Thanksgiving day, about noon, felt like I had been drugged. The rest of the day, I could hardly get out of bed. The next day I was fine, though.

I lost nine pounds in the first week, five during the second, and about three per week after that. Hard boiled eggs, homemade beef jerky, and cheesecake made with stevia got me through the first two week carb - free period. I switched from my old staple, beer, to whisky and water (which I already had a taste for).

Kept the weight off for almost a year, when I got sick and started binging on ice cream and pasta. I had modified my eating habits to avoid big - carb items, but slipped pretty bad. So I went back on the diet again. This time I didn't lose quite as much weight as fast as the previous time (about 15 pounds) but I was cocky and probably didn't follow the dietary restrictions as accurately as I should have. Eight months later I had gained a little of the weight back, but wanted to get back down to my fighting weight. So, for the third time I went back on the diet. I wasn't truly motivated this time, so I only lost ten pounds or so.

I finally realized that at my age - 38 - I needed to exercize more regularly to make it work. I still weigh as much as I did after the second bout of Adkins, but am in much better shape running 3.5 miles every other day and staying away from excess carbs. My wife and I eat a lot of brown rice (low carbs and high fiber), a few potatoes and a little pasta. I still eat all the steak I want, but I find we eat a lot more chicken than we used to.

Sheesh... I really went on there didn't I? In conclusion, I endorse the Adkins diet, but if you don't get serious about exercise you will gain the weight back. The diet really gives you perspective about what you can and can't get away with regarding eating, and the lasting result is one of knowledge.
 
I too used the Protien Power Plan and dropped about 30 lbs in 5 weeks. I found it pretty easy to maintain the weight loss after I educated myself and vigilantly read labels. There are some great low carb cookbooks out there with good ideas for low carb deserts for those of you like me with a sweet tooth. If you are on the road alot, stick to steak, chicken or fish and salad and you'll have no problem maintaining. BTW, I dropped 40 points off my cholesterol in 6 weeks, much to the astonishment of my flight surgeon.
 
I am thrilled to see this thread. I've been on Atkins several times and lost weight. However, I've found a problem while working. I tend to "Bonk" as an athelte would say. I need to find the right balance of carbs while I'm at work, or I will have an ugly approach and landing. (no auto pilot in the mighty beech)

Steve
 
Dr Atkins

Did you know that Dr. Atkins had a heart attack last April?

You can get rid of fat...but at what price? Mybe we should just try "moderation?"
 
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FlyToVegas said:
Did you know that Dr. Atkins had a heart attack last April?

You can get rid of fat...but at what price? Mybe we should just try "moderation?"

Dr Atkins did have heart related problems, but it was in no way diet related. It was a heart condition that he had for quite sometime, it was more of a defect in his heart. The low carb approach is perfectly safe.

As a side note a friend and his wife whom has diabities had me over for dinner last night. It was a great meal complete with ice cream(no suger) and low carb beer. I will never give up beer! Well my buddy was quite a butter ball when we started new hire ground together a few years ago. Today on this diet he is 45lbs lighter and much happy with himself. (Dang this really sounds like a paid testamonial.) The point is it works and is safe, the key is moderation.
 
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Atkins...Alive and Well (mostly)

Dr. Atkins is alive and kicking (Unless he died since his November 12th book signing at a Barnes and Noble in Yonkers, NY). He was diagnosed earlier this year with Cardiomyopathy, which is an enlargement and weakening of the heart muscle. This was a result of a previous infection in his heart and not the result of Coronary Artery Disease.

I have been practicing the Atkins diet for three months and have lost 25 lbs. It does work, but I recommend anyone who decides to try the diet, get a copy of his book for the diet is slightly more complicated than just cutting out carbs. The most important thing to remember is that the Atkins Diet will have to be a lifestyle change in order to keep the lbs off. (I think this rule would apply to just about any diet)

Just my take on the matter.

AT
 
I also have been on my own (modified) Atkins diet and I too lost about 20 lbs. and have kept it off. I truly beleive that less carbs and Exercise is the trick.My blood pressure has also gone way down. At 50 years old its much more difficult shedding weight and I've tried everthing. Flying for a liveing is not the healthiest of ocupations and sitting in an airplane 12, 16 or more hours a day, then eating in a hotel resturant then going straight to bed can kill us! Not to mention the many pints of beer it takes to calm the nerves after being without sleep for 26 hours and missing while trying to land a heavy freighter with min fuel in Lax in the morning fog ,then diverting to Ontario and spending 4 more hours waiting for the weather to lift in Lax. Am I rambleling ? Anyway, It works and its quite healthy. Bread, potatoes and pasta is really all you have to give up. Maybe a beer or two. ;) :D
 
Atkins

Im also on a modified Atkins diet. I have been on it for a few months, I have lost a few pounds, but my bodyfat has dropped a lot. Im getting ready to head to OCS and when I took my military flight physical I had been on the diet for a while and my cholestrol levels were all in the excellent range. I cant get by woth NO carbs so I try to eat my carbs early in the morning. For breakfast I eat 8 eggs, let that settle for about an hour or so and then get in the car to head to the gym, On the way to the gym I eat a low carb bar protein bar (I prefer the Labrada Lean Body). I lift weights for about 1 and 1/2 hours, then I leave the gym and run 2 to 3 miles.

Lunch is usually boneless skinless chicken with a salad. I visit with the wife and play with the baby for a while then take a short nap before I head to the high school where i coach wrestling. I wrestle balls to the wall for 2 hours and finish by running "gassers" for about 30 on the stadium steps. I have always stayed in great shape but I can attribute the atkins diet for leaning me out. Im now about 6'3 220 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal. I have 5 months before I leave and my plan is to be about 205 the day I leave. I play on turning my workouts up a notch after the new year and slowly eating less and less carbs. The diet has worked for me and keeps me from feeling sluggish, which is often times how I will feel if I binge on any kind of cards.
 
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explain how you can eat eight eggs, bacon, and staek and have normal cholesterol??
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Not to be glib, but read Atkins Book and he will tell you how.
If you payed attention in Health class back in high school, the medical explanations for why this diet works will be easy to understand. If you would like more info, you could also check out http://atkinscenter.com
 
Atkins worked great for me, lost the weight and the bp went down big time. I kept all the weight off with the diet and excercise. But all good things must come to an end. When I went to England I gained 15 pounds on English beer. It must have been good beer because I just havn't been able to get rid of the pounds. After Christmas I guess I will give her a go again......
 
130 / 20

One of the best ways to help lose weight is to limit your Pop (or Soda, depending on your location) intake.

One can of Sprite for example:
- 130 Calories with
- 28 Grams of Carbohydrates

Your first few weeks of Atkins you have to limit your diet to around 20 Grams of Carbs, one can of sprite and you've already blown that. Diet pop has NO CARBS and NO CALS....it's pretty much a free-be. Caffein is kinda a no-no with atkins too, so keep that in mind too. If you can try switching to good ol H20 anyhow.

I did Atkins a while back and went from 235 down to 205. I started the diet when I left home for Flight Safety for 3.5 weeks. That was a great way to do it. I found that eating out really isn't all that difficult with Atkins. You order Steak, Chicken, Pork or Fish and then you can usually ask them to substitute the bad stuff for the good stuff, like replace mashed potatoes with cauliflower. Pretty easy.

I've pretty much gone back to eathing whatever and have been bouncing back and forth now between 210 and 220. I think my ideal weight is around 190, so I have to get back on track. I found it more difficult to eat at home with my wife who wasn't on the diet...very difficult to eat different meals all the time.

Oh well, just my addition. Even if you are not on Atkins, pop will kill ya, especially regular pop.

Good Luck,
JetPilot500
 

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