ATC and Airspace question

[PC800]

The LOA has nothing to do with VFR procedures. It is an agreement between satellite airport towers and Chicago that specifies altitudes and routings between each of these smaller airports like Waukegan, Lake in the Hills, Palwaukee, Gary, Du Page, Aurora, etc.

You refer to "the LOA", which might lead some readers to conclude that there's only one. There are actually dozens of LOA's between Chicago and the satellite airport towers, covering much more than just the IFR routings and altitudes you mentioned. VFR procedures that affect other facilities are always addressed in an LOA.

That said, there are no provisions, in any of the LOA's between PWK and ORD, that permit PWK controllers to allow VFR traffic on an extended downwind for 34 to enter the Class B airspace. They could seek permission to do so on an individual basis via direct coordination with O'Hare Tower-- but unless an emergency exists, chances that permission would be granted are pretty slim.

 

[405]

Let me sum this up for you overanalytical aeronautical piss ants: Don't bust ORD's sacred airspace regardless of what an air traffic controller says at some tiny tower adjacent to ORD.

There's no debate, no argument and no reasoning. Simple as that.

End of thread.

 

[405]

Shut up about it.

 

[smellthejeta]

End of thread.

Well, er, um, the thread is still open...

 

[Gutenberg]

LOA's

You're right PC800. I'm wrong. At PWK, all of us VFR junkies have to squawk 5100 until 5nm from the airport. I think that constitutes an LOA- so ORD knows the origin of the VFR planes that bust Bravo, among other reasons. We also have to cancel IFR when circling to 34, so standard IFR separation doesn't screw up the ORD traffic. Not so cool when you want to adhere to the charter regs/ops manual.