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Pulling out, selling off. No crew furoughs, so the union says.

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Effective November 28, 2007 MDW-DCA service will be discontinued.

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Effective December 1, 2007 there will be selective reductions in frequency on LGAMDW
flights. On January 7, 2008, we will discontinue this service entirely.

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Effective January 7, 2007 we will also discontinue service between MDW-ONT-HNL.

 
is it possible that SWA execs have encouraged these moves for ATA?

i don't know much about the ATA/SWA relationship, but it seems 2 of those markets are being flooded with SWA flights currently (DCA=BWI; LGA=ISP).

wonder who gets the DCA slots now?
 
With DAL entering the market LGA-MDW, no one's really been making money in the NY-CHI market. They're just going for market share.

There is no official tie between the to managment teams as far as that goes, but behind the scenes?

I wouldn't be surprised if SWA now moves in.






You're welcome.
 
The slots at LGA AFAIK will revert to the PANYNJ, they supposedly are not transferable to SWA!
 
Why have ATA fly into DCA and LGA when SWA is buying AirTran?

Don't know about HNL, Does a -700 go that far? AT does have some ETOPS planes owned by GCAS.
 
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Why have ATA fly into DCA and LGA when SWA is buying AirTran?

Don't know about HNL, Does a -700 go that far? AT does have some ETOPS planes owned by GCAS.
 
Don't know about HNL, Does a -700 go that far? AT does have some ETOPS planes owned by GCAS.

Go back to the Airliners.net website to ask questions like that.
 
Ty weighs in . . . .

ATA already does Hawaii flights in 737-800's. . . .

Gawd, what a joy that would be, back in "Deep-Vein Thrombosis" class!


BTW. . . SWA is only buying AAI's 737 operation- you "electric jet" guys are going to be left behind,
with Allen "Appeasement" P. as your new CP, and Noel "Flaps" P. as the Assistant CP after Coach "hangs up his cleats" in January. ;)

Remember folks, you read it here first!
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With DAL entering the market LGA-MDW, no one's really been making money in the NY-CHI market. They're just going for market share.


This is the reason. DAL. Word is they are losing money, overall, on the domestic side. The international side is making big bucks and subsidizing the domestic side.

Evil? I don't think so. It is smart to maintain your international feed. But there will be more carriers announcing the end to routes in the months ahead. Just another move from the old play book.
 
This is the reason. DAL. Word is they are losing money, overall, on the domestic side. The international side is making big bucks and subsidizing the domestic side.

Evil? I don't think so. It is smart to maintain your international feed. But there will be more carriers announcing the end to routes in the months ahead. Just another move from the old play book.

Word is they are losing money on the domestic side? Word up! What? Where do you make this up? Can you supply any other facts than "Word is?"


Here is a recent article quoting our CFO and his thoughts:

By Chris Reiter
NEW YORK, Sept 26 (Reuters) - Delta Air Lines Inc (DAL.N: Quote, Profile, Research) could further shift planes to fly international routes from domestic ones if the U.S. economic slowdown impacts travel spending, the No. 3 U.S. airline's president said on Wednesday.
"We're obviously sensitive to what we're seeing in the U.S. economy," Delta President and Chief Financial Officer Ed Bastian told Reuters on the sidelines of a company briefing. "If there's any area of caution we're taking, it's on our U.S. capacity."
By next summer, Delta plans to have 40 percent of its planes, which the industry refers to as capacity, flying international routes -- about double the rate three years earlier when the company was heading toward bankruptcy.
After exiting Chapter 11 at the end of April, Delta has lower costs than many of its competitors, and Bastian said the company's growing international network positions it well for a slowing U.S. economy.
"We think we're actually moving in the direction that the global economic indicators suggest," he said.
Although oil prices have risen well above the $65 a barrel the company expected at the time it emerged from bankruptcy, Bastian said Delta has been able to adjust.
"We've been able to get the right size capacity to meet demand. It's enabled our ability to recover the costs of those higher fuel prices," he said.
But rising oil prices are still a concern. "The concern I have on fuel is not fuel itself, but whether it would spark a slowdown in the general U.S. economy," Bastian said. "But, at this point, we haven't seen that."
Indeed, Delta so far hasn't seen a big impact on travel demand from the U.S. housing slowdown and tighter credit markets.
"The demand and revenue environment these days is very, very strong," Bastian said. "We haven't seen any significant impact" of a slowing economy on bookings.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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