Astar buying Polar

[AV8OR]

He claims he's gonna make his either way. I guess we'll see.

And as far as AStar pilots being twitchy, yep, you could say that. Dasburg's crack airline management team has yet to produce one dime of growth, revenue, or vision, while at the same time "muzzling the ox that treads out the grain" so to speak.

Dasburg has said at numerous occasions during his 3 year tenure that he was working on this deal or that deal but never produced anything. Nothing. Not a "W" to be found in the win/loss column. That makes him either incompetent or a liar. Either way, a loser by any measure. He has no credibilty with the pilot group, so, either he "brings it"...... or we will.

Now where are my white gloves anyway?

 

[AV8OR]

150 pilots showed up for 3 hours of informational picketing. Let's get this party started!

 

[cheyflyer]

STFD.......

NW Airlink... circa 1996-ish

 

[GoABX]

TRUE or FALSE?

Were 2-3 Astar pilots suspended or fired for being 'tired'?

 

[AV8OR]

I'll check, but not that I've heard.

Tired? Hmm.

 

[steamgauge]

TRUE or FALSE?

Were 2-3 Astar pilots suspended or fired for being 'tired'?

No. There was a firing for training failure. That's it.

Steam

 

[aviatrix767]

I found this in the Wilmington Journal this morning.... Interesting, very interesting. Hmmmm....

[FONT='Arial Black','sans-serif']ASTAR gets TRO against pilots' union [/FONT]
[FONT='Arial Black','sans-serif'][/FONT]
[FONT='Arial Black','sans-serif'][FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]By GARY HUFFENBERGER[/FONT]

[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]Thursday, November 16, 2006[/FONT]


[FONT=ARIAL, SANS SERIF]A federal judge Wednesday evening issued a temporary restraining order (TRO) upon the ASTAR Air Cargo pilots' union, prohibiting the union members from a work stoppage overnight Wednesday.

According to court documents, ASTAR learned Wednesday afternoon that its pilots planned a work stoppage for Wednesday night, apparently in protest of the firing of an ASTAR pilot.

"We felt there was a legitimate and credible threat that there was going to be disruption to our operation," said Steve Rossum, ASTAR general counsel.

The DHL Air Park near Wilmington is the air hub for ASTAR Air Cargo.

Company attorneys supported their request for a TRO by citing the Railway Labor Act, and arguing that the union's grievance is a "minor dispute," and that the union is not permitted to strike over a minor dispute.

"If unions were permitted to strike over minor disputes, the courts have reasoned, it would eviscerate the RLA's [Railway Labor Act's] procedures that are designed to maintain stability in the transportation industry," according to a court document filed by ASTAR.[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[hvydriver]

Yep, we're having fun now Avatrix!! Of course, the company is full of poopie. We know the law. I guess our management is getting "twitchy" too.

 

[aviatrix767]

Yep, we're having fun now Avatrix!! Of course, the company is full of poopie. We know the law. I guess our management is getting "twitchy" too.

Yes, I'm sure things are going to get very interesting.

 

[AV8OR]

First things first....Aviatrix, before you ask, I have know idea what the h3ll happened to the Tigers last Sat. Thankfully, at halftime, I headed over to NAS Pensacola to watch The Blue's homecoming show. I needed to watch some winners. BUT.......,

Speaking of winning, keep an eye on the front page of the ILN paper tomorrow and you'll see that after hearing all the evidence (or lack there of) the same judge vacated his own TRO, and promptly ordered AStar to pay all court and attorney's fees for wasting his and the court's time.

CCCCCCCCan I get a witness?!

gearjockey - If any AStar guys are twitchy....it's management.

 

[aviatrix767]

First things first....Aviatrix, before you ask, I have know idea what the h3ll happened to the Tigers last Sat. Thankfully, at halftime, I headed over to NAS Pensacola to watch The Blue's homecoming show. I needed to watch some winners. BUT.......,

Speaking of winning, keep an eye on the front page of the ILN paper tomorrow and you'll see that after hearing all the evidence (or lack there of) the same judge vacated his own TRO, and promptly ordered AStar to pay all court and attorney's fees for wasting his and the court's time.

CCCCCCCCan I get a witness?!

gearjockey - If any AStar guys are twitchy....it's management.

Okay, so it was one game... you guys still have a great record this season. I mean, you've only lost 2 games and, depending on which poll you look at, you're ranked 14th/15th in the national rankings!! However, I've given up on the Rebels this season. The only way it could get any worse is if the Rebels were to lose to the Bulldogs. If THAT happens, well, I'm just going to lower my head in complete shame and hide under the nearest rock. LOL!

I heard about the TRO being thrown out a few minutes ago. Congrats! <sigh> These games get really old, really quick don't they?

 

[AV8OR]

Yes the games get old. But, unfortunately our management seems to enjoy it, and, since we don't have as choice, we say......bring it!

 

[GoABX]

Nice ad in the ILN Journal....a pic of a DHL aircraft, instead of the Soviet plane would have had more impact on they people who have the authority to say 'get it done now.' But I'm sure mgt had to unscrew themselves from the ceiling when they saw it. Those tactics are much more effective than taxiiing slow, etc.

Was the guy who got zapped on the checkride weak or a hostage. If weak, it puts the pilots in a tough position. If a hostage, it was a stupid blunder by the company; nothing unifies more quickly.

 

[Whistlin' Dan]

Was the guy who got zapped on the checkride weak or a hostage. If weak, it puts the pilots in a tough position. If a hostage, it was a stupid blunder by the company; nothing unifies more quickly.

It was a guy returning from a medical LOA. Passed his sim check and LOFT, failed 2 line checks, both administered by the same check pilot. (!)

20+ years with the company, 13 in left seat. No previous training failures, re-checks, or unsat line checks.

 

[GoABX]

Same check pilot?!!! That should never have happened. If the co. or union didn't have a clue, then the pilot himself should have declined and requested someone else. If he had to do both the sim and LOFT he was obviously out for a while, executing him without any additional training was pretty heartless on the company's part. I guess things will become more interesting in the short term. From the outside, it looks like you unity is pretty strong.

 

[AV8OR]

1. Yes he got fired. I have no idea where the union stands. But I have yet to hear a pilot who was annoyed at the news, much less willing to wildcat because of it.

2. That guy wasn't mentioned in the deposition to get the TRO at all.

3. The TRO was issued at the 11th hour in response to a deposition of our Dir. Flt Ops, who listed 4th hand innuendo as his basis for requesting the TRO.

4. That's what pissed off the judge.

I've read the entire deposition, and let's just say it's a very interesting chain of info that has been denied by some of the parties involved. I'm hoping there's an inestigation as to where this whole thing was actually instigated.

Either way, we won this one, they lost, and we move on.

 

[UM#1]

Either way, we won this one, they lost, and we move on.

SO True! The only thing they accomplished was building more Unity among our pilot group!

 

[LarryinTN]

3. The TRO was issued at the 11th hour in response to a deposition of our Dir. Flt Ops, who listed 4th hand innuendo as his basis for requesting the TRO.

Our local sent out some info to us on this today. Very strange situation.

 

[AV8OR]

Our local sent out some info to us on this today. Very strange situation.

Yes it is. But I'm hoping we'll get to the bottom of it.

 

[two(2)%]

Is perjury grounds for termination?

How about fraud, conspiracy or a combination thereof?