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ASA update Tuesday-Numbers are FAKE

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I think the people who put those delay codes in there just hang those codes on the wall and throw darts at them to determine which one to tag a flight with.

They tagged my 1st flt (after our 3 hr break) with this one:
"CR-PILOT REQUESTS BREAK".

What the????

We were actually late because we had the paperwork done and we got the bang on the side of the a/c for more bags. So in the interest of safety, we redid all the numbers and spun the wheel again.

Oh well, whatever.
 
ONCE AGAIN LIVE AND LATE BREAKING

Just in OKC and 2 aircraft are on mX, but ASA has coded them as weather enroute delays. As they can get back credit for weather delays.

They are not weather, it is mx write-ups !! Very Smart but the aircraft are still late !

We are going to keep this Safety Campaign up for the next 5 years !!!!

FLY SAFE DRIVE SLOW !!!

Misrepresenting delays is illegal. Passengers are entitled to compensation for delays other than weather. If a company is telling passengers a mechanical delay is due to weather they are breaking the law and can be fined. Comair was fined for lying about cancellations when their computers went down over Christmas, it was a slap on the wrist but was terrible press, which would be good for the pilots at ASA.

The bad news is I have no clue who to report this to. Maybe that 800 number the company gave you would be a good start. If the union were on top of this they would send out a VARS message instructing pilots to check delay codes and report bad ones. Chances are they aren't aware of the issue. ASA guys, call your representatives when you see a problem, it's the only way they will know a problem exists.
 
Here's the trick...

The fact that these numbers are all on internal communications is what makes it legal.

These guys don't have to release any official numbers until the DOT report comes out. They are totally just making these thing up-as far as I know there is no penalty for lying to employees.

-They will be quietly "corrected" before the DOT ever sees them.....
 
The fact that these numbers are all on internal communications is what makes it legal.

These guys don't have to release any official numbers until the DOT report comes out. They are totally just making these thing up-as far as I know there is no penalty for lying to employees.

-They will be quietly "corrected" before the DOT ever sees them.....

Bingo! The stations enter whatever they want for the in/out times. It takes 4 days to audit the flight logs and they aren't published until the end of the month.
 
We were delayed 20 minutes the other day due to not having a release, thus cannot board.

The delay code was "Pilot requests delay in boarding process".

Makes us look even better for havoc now, and we did not have to do anything!
 
Yeah, the ethical behavior hotline pamplets were great. Shortly after recieving mine, a buddy of mine was broke at an out station and got a call stating how charlie tutt was freaking out and he shouldn't become a poster child on the 8th floor. I thought I've read somewhere...maybe FOM 2-5.1....that ALL discrepencies must be addressed prior to departure. Not just departures in ATL.
 
Yeah, the ethical behavior hotline pamplets were great. Shortly after recieving mine, a buddy of mine was broke at an out station and got a call stating how charlie tutt was freaking out and he shouldn't become a poster child on the 8th floor. I thought I've read somewhere...maybe FOM 2-5.1....that ALL discrepencies must be addressed prior to departure. Not just departures in ATL.
 
Sad ting is that they be dun lie 'bout der times and day still is last in duh DOT..... dat der is stupid... if ya lie... make it Good... Bouyyyyy.....
 
Loving every minute of it folks. BE SAFE!! Keep those taxi speeds down to 3-4 mph. Think Safety...Safety....Safety!! I guarantee you that the heat is being put on mgmnt. We just have too keep this up until them come BEGGING US for a Contract!!
I'm So PROUD!!:D
 
My two and a half hour delay today was coded as "CR-LATE COMPLETION OF CHECKLIST". Now, granted, I failed the third grade twice before dropping out to work the riverboats on the Mississippi, but I can read, "FMS... Set/Verified" just as good as the next guy. Of course, when you get to them big words like "Hydraulics" I just pray that I have an edu-ma-cated F/O....

Seriously... Late completion of checklist??? At least have the originality to blame the delay on my recent need to take a meal break 5 times a day.
 
Everyone needs to make sure that you are getting your "1 hour meal" break. The crew MUST be nourished! All of these 5 leg days with only 30-40 min breaks is BullSh!T! Take your lunches....DO NOT LET THEM RUSH YOU! Remember that your flight attendant needs to be able to eat their food without shoving it down her throat! Be supportive of ALL your crew-members!
 

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