ASA Position Notice

[Data]

What's this one all about, 1 spot for each Captain on each plane/domicile and no FO action. Shuffling or will this be another "oh, we may award more on the 700" deal?

 

[ASA_Aviator]

What's this one all about, 1 spot for each Captain on each plane/domicile and no FO action. Shuffling or will this be another "oh, we may award more on the 700" deal?

Not sure, but they can put as many people in each position as they like. The number open is the minimum number, not the max. I bet they just want some flexibility in the number, and won't know the exact number they need until nearly the end of the bid.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Sorry, I couldn't resist

What's this one all about, 1 spot for each Captain on each plane/domicile and no FO action. Shuffling or will this be another "oh, we may award more on the 700" deal?

The Starfish Story
Original Story by: Loren Eisley
​

One day a man was walking along the beach when he noticed
a boy picking something up and gently throwing it into the ocean.
Approaching the boy, he asked, “What are you doing?”
The youth replied, “Throwing starfish back into the ocean.
The surf is up and the tide is going out. If I don’t throw them back, they’ll die.”
“Son,” the man said, “don’t you realize there are miles and miles of beach and hundreds of starfish?
You can’t make a difference!”
After listening politely, the boy bent down, picked up another starfish,
and threw it back into the surf. Then, smiling at the man, he said…”
I made a difference for that one.”​

 

[maxcackel]

Maybe the needed to put it out ASAP but need to wait for the Official announcement before giving the real numbers as not to give it away. Needs to happen fast.

 

[jstyle13]

I think it's lame. If you are thinking about putting a bid in for something else you have no idea how many slots they may need to fill and where you would fall. If you're down towards the junior end of the captain side, it's hard to figure out where might be best for you when they do it like that. Hopefully someone over there in mangement will send out an email letting us know what's up.

 

[SPDBRD747400]

My guess is that we are getting the (4) -700's at different times and they are filling slots based on them coming online after we get them into our system. Also we are adding (2) -200's from somewhere (for United) and those are to come later. Is this a way to drag out the training since all these planes aren't coming at once? Dunno just my thoughts.

 

[701EV]

BM doesn't know how to count?

Won't be the first time.

 

[777forever]

I think it's lame. If you are thinking about putting a bid in for something else you have no idea how many slots they may need to fill and where you would fall. If you're down towards the junior end of the captain side, it's hard to figure out where might be best for you when they do it like that. Hopefully someone over there in mangement will send out an email letting us know what's up.

No kidding. We really need a project bid or something. We don't even have a clue how many lines are going to be in each base with the new planes. Guess for borderline lineholder/rsv people its cross your fingers and hope for the best bid!

 

[twott driver]

...Concurrently with a position notice, the Company will post a
preliminary award sheet that indicates the expected results of
the final award if closed based upon the bid preference forms​

on file at the time.....

It's in the contract in black and white. Nothing new with them not following what's required, and nothing new with our steller ALPA reps not doing anything to enforce the contract. Never been very pessimistic, but I really am starting to think they're a bunch of management lackeys. Do the job you volunteered for, or get the hell out. Seems like most are just trying to pad the resume.

 

[twott driver]

Looking at the max number in each seat, conceivably there could be up to 46 capt awards, possibly more, probably less.

 

[CFI2766]

Or, it could be that it saves costs somehow. Any thoughts on how assigning captains to different bases at the end of training versus at the beginning of training might save some costs?

 

[777forever]

...Concurrently with a position notice, the Company will post a
preliminary award sheet that indicates the expected results of
the final award if closed based upon the bid preference forms​

on file at the time.....

It's in the contract in black and white. Nothing new with them not following what's required, and nothing new with our steller ALPA reps not doing anything to enforce the contract. Never been very pessimistic, but I really am starting to think they're a bunch of management lackeys. Do the job you volunteered for, or get the hell out. Seems like most are just trying to pad the resume.

Good to know. Which part of the contract is that in? I'll email BM and if he doesn't do it then the reps are getting a call. Stuff like this is common courtesy, and doesn't cost any money.
Also, with 4 more 700s I'm guessing there will be about 20 more lines. Even more with PBS.

 

[twott driver]

Or, it could be that it saves costs somehow. Any thoughts on how assigning captains to different bases at the end of training versus at the beginning of training might save some costs?

They can't do that. You bid a category (plane and position) for a specific base. It is awarded accordingly. They can't reassign you to another base without doing a displacement in a subsequent award.

They are obviously unsure of the required number of capt positions. As a result they just post one vacancy. Per the contract they can increase this to any number they feel appropriate. However if they posted 10 positions and then decide they only need 5, they have to cancel the bid and redo it, wasting time that they can't afford.

 

[goahead]

So I've already been extended for my two day this weekend, I haven't even dutied in yet for the trip & there are 22 peps on res that day. What crap

 

[sweptback]

...Concurrently with a position notice, the Company will post a
preliminary award sheet that indicates the expected results of
the final award if closed based upon the bid preference forms​

on file at the time.....

It's in the contract in black and white. Nothing new with them not following what's required, and nothing new with our steller ALPA reps not doing anything to enforce the contract. Never been very pessimistic, but I really am starting to think they're a bunch of management lackeys. Do the job you volunteered for, or get the hell out. Seems like most are just trying to pad the resume.

Read the MOUs. That section has been superseded.

 

[ASApuppy]

The thing about this that I don't get is the effective date. Dec 1, 2010. Really? That is 5 months away. I just don't see how they have become so smart about our future that they know we need 3 capt's in 5 months. Something about this does not pass the smell test. Don't get me wrong, I love the growth and movement. If your doing a domicile swap with no training involved, enjoy your wait.

 

[777forever]

Can someone base swap off the 700 to IAD

 

[Tarzan]

Can someone base swap off the 700 to IAD

As long as you are not seat locked....

 

[resetjet]

As long as you are not seat locked....

Thanks to BM we may never know.......

 

[777forever]

As long as you are not seat locked....

Thanks! If you bid up to the 700 do you get seat locked?