ASA Mediator Update

[HelloNewman]

Since the majority of cards ARE in - I'd say that you DON'T speak for the majority either. But tell me- If the drive should fail-Will all this fine food be on the SKW credit card?

Oh but I thought the cards were just for intrest only saying you wanted to hold a election? ALPA has told us themselves that the cards do not equal a yes vote for the union, or did they lie to us again? If the majority wants ALPA why don't they hold an election? The OC seems to be a bit hessitant to hold an election. An OC member himself stated he doesn't think it will pass. In 1999 he said about 3/4 of the pilots sent in their cards and the drive still failed. That was when there were not nearly as many pilots as there are today. A lot of hardcore union supporters have thankfully already left.

I think this union drive is simply a way for pilots who feel they have been wronged by the company to try and hurt the company. Revenge is definately on a few of the more vocal OC members minds. I have to ask again why the worry on holding an election? They have been collecting cards since the end of september and now the cards coming in have slowed to a trickle. ALPA says that the cards are compared to the number of people who quit every month. I thought that information was confidential and only the NMB knows who has filled out cards are not? Why is it the unions buisness who has filled out a card or not?

There are a lot of unanswered questions. When the union drive fails I invite all union and non union supporters to join me in Chicago. We can all have a nice logical discussion. It will be a healing process for the members of the OC to move forward instead of wonder how another union drive failed. I vow to serve champange, lobster, salmon, fine steaks and other good food. It will be a BBQ that would blow ALPA BBQs out of the water any day of the week. How it is funded is not important since money is not an issue for me. It would be personally funded by me and not by the company. I have no contacts in SGU. This is just one pilot out of many against the union drive.

 

[scarlet]

A move to decertify ALPA and go with an in house union may be an "uncertainty", but the only "certain" """about ALPA is that it has not even admitted that it has a problem,"""" much less do anything positive to fix the problems....

Seems ALPA and Bush have the same disease !!!! At least about one thing...


Oh Please --you hit it on the HEAD (again) why would Skywest fall on a sword for ASA pilots????

ONE LIST !!!

 

[scarlet]

Skywest around in 5-10 years= 100%

ASA around in 5-10 years=20%

????

 

[flylowman]

Put up or shut up.

Oh but I thought the cards were just for intrest only saying you wanted to hold a election? ALPA has told us themselves that the cards do not equal a yes vote for the union, or did they lie to us again? If the majority wants ALPA why don't they hold an election? The OC seems to be a bit hessitant to hold an election. An OC member himself stated he doesn't think it will pass. In 1999 he said about 3/4 of the pilots sent in their cards and the drive still failed. That was when there were not nearly as many pilots as there are today. A lot of hardcore union supporters have thankfully already left.

I think this union drive is simply a way for pilots who feel they have been wronged by the company to try and hurt the company. Revenge is definately on a few of the more vocal OC members minds. I have to ask again why the worry on holding an election? They have been collecting cards since the end of september and now the cards coming in have slowed to a trickle. ALPA says that the cards are compared to the number of people who quit every month. I thought that information was confidential and only the NMB knows who has filled out cards are not? Why is it the unions buisness who has filled out a card or not?

There are a lot of unanswered questions. When the union drive fails I invite all union and non union supporters to join me in Chicago. We can all have a nice logical discussion. It will be a healing process for the members of the OC to move forward instead of wonder how another union drive failed. I vow to serve champange, lobster, salmon, fine steaks and other good food. It will be a BBQ that would blow ALPA BBQs out of the water any day of the week. How it is funded is not important since money is not an issue for me. It would be personally funded by me and not by the company. I have no contacts in SGU. This is just one pilot out of many against the union drive.

What if it passes? Are you going to work for a union company? Which union do you think will be at your next job? Are you just going to retire at SKYW?

 

[HelloNewman]

What if it passes? Are you going to work for a union company? Which union do you think will be at your next job? Are you just going to retire at SKYW?

I don't plan on ever working for a union company. That is why I came to SkyWest. I would work for JetBlue as long as they keep the union away. If the union passes I won't leave just because they are there. It is the same thing with the union guys. I guarantee you they will not leave if the drive fails.

 

[scott hall]

Hello Newman,

Once the ALPA drive fails and Jerry integrates us, I hope you will stop by to pay me a visit. I can use a guy with your ideals.

 

[79%N1]

Would you guy please quit quoting Newmey in your posts, most of us have his posts ignored and don't care to see them in your reply posts.

Thanks much.

P.S If everyone ignores him, he will be forced to stop posting, because nobody will be listening!

 

[PCL_128]

Oh but I thought the cards were just for intrest only saying you wanted to hold a election? ALPA has told us themselves that the cards do not equal a yes vote for the union, or did they lie to us again?

Nope, no lies. The cards do not equal a vote. The vote is done by secret ballot and monitored by the NMB after ALPA petitions for the vote and turns in the cards.

ALPA says that the cards are compared to the number of people who quit every month. I thought that information was confidential and only the NMB knows who has filled out cards are not?

No, you've got your facts wrong (as usual). The Skywest OC doesn't have access to the list of people that have turned in cards. The ALPA staff and reps do, however. We are not allowed to share that information with the OC members, with management, or with anyone else. The NMB doesn't get the cards until after ALPA petitions for a vote. After that, we turn all of the cards over to the NMB, they verify the validity of them, and then they start the voting process.

I look forward to meeting you at the ALPA event in ORD.