ASA/MEC phone survey

[bailout]

Anybody else receive a phone call survey asking questions about how do you think the contract talks are going right now? what are you looking for in the new contract? what is important to you? what are your strike issues? etc,. But the last 10 minutes of the survey were strickly questions about . how you feel about a merger with Comair? issues? concerns? etc. Very interesting indeed!

 

[doh]

I would love to merge with ASA! We already have a seniority list process worked out, and the strength in greater numbers would be terrific!

 

[wms]

Strength in numbers hasn't helped Eagle or Coex. There are quite a few airlines with 3000 pilots, and the pilot groups aren't necessarily strong.

A merger to get paid less than we deserve, when we're already at concessionary wages, and gain CVG as a base is hardly a good deal.

 

[bailout]

DOH!! I forgot to mention THE most important part... She also asked, after every question about the Comair merger, "Would you take a pay wage concession (cut) to make this happen?"

 

[knightflyer]

Is this really on the rada screen.... or is this alot hot air?

 

[~~~^~~~]

A merger with Comair would probably mean the last representations of George and John would be banished to line flying, or retirement. ASA management could use a little of what Comair has. Regardless of the scope and ALPA issues, anything that resulted in better operational performance at ASA would be welcome.

 

[rjcap]

I won't endorse any reductions in pay but I would be delighted to see the gang of red necks known as our current mgmt sent packing.

Skip, Drew, Nelson, Chromer etc.

I wonder if the time that Drew and Nelson spent in the crew lounge this week spouting concessions was actually their attempt at saving their own jobs ?????

 

[StaySeated]

Just curious

I am wondering what the DOH would be of an ASA pilot 50 numbers from the bottom. Has ASA hired in the last six months, and if so, how much? Thanks for the info.

 

[Medeco]

DOH

50 from the bottom would be about a Nov 4th class date of 2002.

Last class of 20 was hired Jan 2nd 03.

I heard from a person in the GO in ATL that we actually will be understaffed the first part of 2004.

This person says we are getting more crj200's in addition to the 15 crj700's.

I know this has not been indicated before and this is the first time I have heard this too, so I will believe it when I see it.

Just wanted to see if anyone else had heard this in training around the Redroof?

 

[asapilot]

rjcapt-

Can you mention any specifics of what Nelson and Chromer had to say about concessions? Was this in ATL? I spent hours in DFW on Monday listening to Drew try his best to not answer any questions. Nelson and Chromer were there lurking and smirking, but they didn't have anything to say. I agree with you, having those guys gone would be one of the single best things that could happen to ASA. It's sad that the stupidest things I've ever had anyone tell me about flying have come from our Chief Pilots.

 

[Treme]

Merger

An ASA/Comair merger would be absolutely a USELESS waste of negotiating capital...

(paying for something that in and of itself will save the company millions by reducing redundancies...

UNLESS the company committed that the combined entity Com/ASA would be the SOLE PROVIDER of DCI flying for Delta Air Lines.

That would mean the termination of contracts at Chautauqua, ACA, and Skywest over some set period of time.

To merge for any other reason would be, in my opinion, foolish. A bigger wholly-owned will NOT prevent the whipsaw. The elimination of the contract feed might help...

 

[rjcap]

UNLESS the company committed that the combined entity Com/ASA would be the SOLE PROVIDER of DCI flying for Delta Air Lines.

Good point. However, I don't believe you could ever have any bullet proof contract language that would keep all DCI flying in house. There is always a loophole.

 

[Palerider957]

Wow, open talk of a merger with Comair? I really like the idea of merging, but I won't (can't) take a pay cut to do it.

The point of reducing redundancy is a good one, canning half of the management and reducing support should save Mama D a lot of cash.

I'd be willing to take a pay scale on par with Comair, but not less. The containment of DCI flying to WO's is also pretty important.

Comair is already our brother (sister) airline, both pilot groups have balls and would probably work well together.

 

[rjcap]

Wow, open talk of a merger with Comair? I really like the idea of merging, but I won't (can't) take a pay cut to do it.

DITTO !

I will go on strike indefinitely if there is any proposed TA that includes any concessionary terms.

 

[General Lee]

RJCAP,

It just seems to me that Delta wouldn't allow a merger without paycuts. Why would they allow the two of you to get bigger and more powerful, without reducing the pay? They already know that Chataqua and Skywest will do it for less, and they are concerned with the $$$$ side right now. I also think that the two of you should merge---which would cut down on redundencies and allow you more choices of bases etc. But, I doubt they would give you all of the DCI flying until you could get costs down to Chataqua's or Skywest's. JMO.


Bye Bye--General Lee