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jstyle13

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Wow. Last month wasn't to bad, but Mays lines are a big jumble of crap! Is it now mandatory to tack on a day line to every 3 day and make it near impossible to commute? Looks like an 8 year old built these lines. Sigh.
 
How many months do we give the new guy before we hang him by the short hairs? Guess he's getting a crash course in how things are done over there.

I'm liking nap reserve more and more each day when the lines are like this. Until we get really short again like lasy spring and summer.
 
Well if you can hold the first bunch of lines that are 20 days off with the last 10 days off of the month, i dont think you'd be complaining, but for the most part, the first half of the lines are good, then it goes downhill fast!
 
jstyle13 said:
Wow. Last month wasn't to bad, but Mays lines are a big jumble of crap! Is it now mandatory to tack on a day line to every 3 day and make it near impossible to commute? Looks like an 8 year old built these lines. Sigh.

No one forced you to commute. And for the day line, it's used to bring the line above 75 hours.
 
some of you guy's would bitch if the company paid you to stay at home. The first 150 or so lines have at least HALF the month off!! Name another business/career you can do that...Lazy ingrates! Please go out and hold a job in the real world for several years so you'll actually know what its like to work. Maybe that'll give you some perspective.
 
Well it looks like the crj2 is seeing what the crj7 guys felt about their April lines. The crj7 lines for May are very good. So I thank Kevin for turning around the crj7 lines for May. Sorry to see the crj2 guys are going to have a ruff May
 
Sinca3 said:
What's up with all the NAP lines????
312 reg. hard lines
65 nap lines

I don't know why there are so many nap lines, yet an airline like Coex doesn't have any. I know there are people that love naps and would do nothing else, but not 130 of them...

Naps to me are a totally inefficient use of a crew (except in a rare case where we just have one or two flights a day). Even when we were short on crews, though, they still had tons of nap lines.

As for the lines needing to be brought up to 75 hours, well, we can thank Chautauqua for that. I saw 4 of their planes parked next to each other the other day. I'm sure more are coming next month.
 
Seems somebody needs to learn how to have enough reserves for day and naps. My nap reserve just turned into a 20 hr 3 day. Seems they ran out of day reserves and have a bunch of nap reserves doing nothing.

I don't bitch about them paying me to stay home. It's been nice for the last few months. Just hope we don't get a repeat of last spring and summer.
 
ohplease! said:
some of you guy's would bitch if the company paid you to stay at home. The first 150 or so lines have at least HALF the month off!! Name another business/career you can do that...Lazy ingrates! Please go out and hold a job in the real world for several years so you'll actually know what its like to work. Maybe that'll give you some perspective.

So 150 lines out of 380 or so have 15 days off. That's nice. The vast majority of the rest of those lines are a wasteland of unproductive trips, or 20-hour 4 days where you do 15 hours of flying between the first and last day.

I don't know about you, but I was holding a better line last year at this time, even with less senority!
 
GO AROUND said:
Seems somebody needs to learn how to have enough reserves for day and naps. My nap reserve just turned into a 20 hr 3 day. Seems they ran out of day reserves and have a bunch of nap reserves doing nothing.

I don't bitch about them paying me to stay home. It's been nice for the last few months. Just hope we don't get a repeat of last spring and summer.

GA, I just talked to a guy who had his nap reserve turned into an 11 hour 3 day. Now that's some quality scheduling!

-Blucher:rolleyes:
 
Wow ASA came out with lines and the pilots don't like them... That never happens.

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www. said:
No one forced you to commute. And for the day line, it's used to bring the line above 75 hours.

You get the biggest ONE FINGER SALUTE ever for that stupid, Doosch-bag remark! Didn't ASA close DFW? They did force some people to commute! Not every one can relocate when they have a family. What are you supposed to do? "Honey, I'm abandoning you and the kids because I have to move!" "Okay dear, we'll just move to the streets. Gosh, I hope you enjoy your new life."
Up yours www. You are a tool.:puke: :bomb: :angryfire :uzi: :smash: ..!..
 
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sweptback said:
So 150 lines out of 380 or so have 15 days off. That's nice. The vast majority of the rest of those lines are a wasteland of unproductive trips, or 20-hour 4 days where you do 15 hours of flying between the first and last day.

I don't know about you, but I was holding a better line last year at this time, even with less senority!
the first 200 have 14 days off and many of those lines are two days that end before noon on the second day. Almost all are blocked over 80 hours. These lines are damn good. Its your own fault if you upgraded before you could hold a good line. quit whinning.
 
boknowsASA said:
Well it looks like the crj2 is seeing what the crj7 guys felt about their April lines. The crj7 lines for May are very good. So I thank Kevin for turning around the crj7 lines for May. Sorry to see the crj2 guys are going to have a ruff May

Kevin had nothing to do with it. He, along with Jack, have been in Hawaii.
 
sweptback said:
Naps to me are a totally inefficient use of a crew (except in a rare case where we just have one or two flights a day). Even when we were short on crews, though, they still had tons of nap lines.

As for the lines needing to be brought up to 75 hours, well, we can thank Chautauqua for that. I saw 4 of their planes parked next to each other the other day. I'm sure more are coming next month.

Hey, the company runs the airline, we fly the airplanes. If they want to pay you 75 for 40, let them do it. As for Chautauqa, 75 hours has nothing to do with it.
 
doh said:
You get the biggest ONE FINGER SALUTE ever for that stupid, Doosch-bag remark! Didn't ASA close DFW? They did force some people to commute! Not every one can relocate when they have a family. What are you supposed to do? "Honey, I'm abandoning you and the kids because I have to move!" "Okay dear, we'll just move to the streets. Gosh, I hope you enjoy your new life."
Up yours www. You are a tool.:puke: :bomb: :angryfire :uzi: :smash: ..!..

Hey, there was a place on the app you filled out when you got hired. It said are you willing to relocated. Did you put no down? I didn't think so.
 
Yep, are you willing to relocate? I said yes and I relocated. I did not say I would move every time management makes a doosch decision! You are a tool.
 
doh said:
Yep, are you willing to relocate? I said yes and I relocated. I did not say I would move every time management makes a doosch decision! You are a tool.

There was no disclaimer that said "this question is only good for 1 move" did it. You had the chance to have the company pay for your move too. You have chosen to stay where you are. You have chosen to commute. I did for 3 years but I didn't complain to others about it.
 
What drives me crazy is how they can have a month or months where most of the lines are the same pairing the entire month with mabye one different paring stuck in somewhere. Then the next month they come out with what they did this month where mabye 50 lines have the same pairing the entire month and all the rest are just mix and match day line, 2, 3 and 4 days. Last summer I was holding commutable 3 days and that was 150 numbers on the senority list ago.
 
jstyle13 said:
What drives me crazy is how they can have a month or months where most of the lines are the same pairing the entire month with mabye one different paring stuck in somewhere. Then the next month they come out with what they did this month where mabye 50 lines have the same pairing the entire month and all the rest are just mix and match day line, 2, 3 and 4 days. Last summer I was holding commutable 3 days and that was 150 numbers on the senority list ago.

DAL now runs certain flights only on certain days. Crew planners cannot build a pair that runs every single day as they did last year.
 

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