ASA Dullas day three: It has started

[Tarzan]

Skywest is joining ASA in Dulles come July 1st.

If PBS passes, don't count on it.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Can we get that in writing?

 

[Snapperhead]

They use to TDY us for 5 days in DFW years ago. What's the big deal? Stop whining like a little biatch. There are too many FLIPs pretending to be airline pilots. HTFU!

 

[Abernathy]

They use to TDY us for 5 days in DFW years ago. What's the big deal? Stop whining like a little biatch. There are too many FLIPs pretending to be airline pilots. HTFU!

And I'm sure it sucked back then, too, unless you're just a really lonely guy without a life outside of work. That doesn't mean the practice should continue. 5 days sitting in a hotel room at Dulles Airport on short call is unreasonable. Reserves who have no chance of breaking guarantee might make $150 or so in per diem, but I would imagine most would forego that in order to spend the time on rsv at home with their families at base.

 

[Tarzan]

Can we get that in writing?

If PBS passes, why would Inc put SkyWest in a place where they could grow ASA into the forecast savings? Those guys are already efficient in their planning. ASA isn't. PBS won't save ASA a dime until it either grows or there is turn over. Instead, it will cost them more than it saves. Where would you put the flying? And....... Don't buy the hype about OO vs EV as to who is favored. The only thing favored is who costs the least and where costs can be reduced. If PBS, ASA fits into that category.

 

[WayBack]

Stop whining like a little biatch. There are too many FLIPs pretending to be airline pilots. HTFU!

I've always found that the guys who talk like this, are the biggest, whiniest, wanna-be pilots out there.
But I guess you're the exception, so why don't you make a YouTube video on how to be a "real pilot". You know, the kind that accepts crap wages, abuse from the company and is just happy to have a job.

 

[Snapperhead]

No one wants to hear you complain, especially the crew you are flying with. I've been on reserve for 4 years and counting. I know what it's like; but, it will do you no good to cry about it...grow up.

 

[701EV]

So you get TDYed to IAD BFD.

Its part of the job!

Reserve sucks, I know it I've been on on longer than most! Reserve sucks a whole lot less than it use to suck!

 

[JoeMerchant]

So you get TDYed to IAD BFD.

Its part of the job!

Reserve sucks, I know it I've been on on longer than most! Reserve sucks a whole lot less than it use to suck!

Maybe we should bring Erion back....

 

[777forever]

If you're on reserve in ATL why would you be upset about TDYing to IAD? 24 hr per diem and min day credit each day sounds alot better than sitting in ATL and blocking 24hrs a month with min guarantee.

 

[79%N1]

Sign me up!!!! I'll volunteer!

 

[COOPERVANE]

If you're on reserve in ATL why would you be upset about TDYing to IAD? 24 hr per diem and min day credit each day sounds alot better than sitting in ATL and blocking 24hrs a month with min guarantee.

Thats like asking why you mind being junior manned! Or do you like it? I don't.

Hey, you get more hours, per diem, and help the company out. Stop whining.

So your argument is why sit in ATL and get guarantee for flying 24 credit hours? I say why would you want to fly 74.5 hours into the crappiest weather in the country and deal with ORD,IAD,LGA in the United system THEN GET YOUR GUARANTEE? For per diem? Hahahahahahah, thats rich. Get to stay in a hotel room for FREE, thats a treat.

If my QOL is being impacted by bad decisions and incompetence in scheduling I have the RIGHT to be irritated. I prefer to sit reserve in ATL. When I am not being used, I am home. I value that over the pay. By the way, I hit 75-80 hours in ATL most months, not 24.

If you dont mind being TDY to Dulles then volunteer for it. That may be coming in the future.


I am amazed at the responses when someone voices concern or dissatisfaction with the way things are being run. Every time someone complains about being pushed into taking an AC with no APU in the summer, you would expect support. Instead we get "Well, I did it for years at XYZ airline" so that makes you a whiner.

We are not in a college fraternity. Just because you or I had to fly with a broken contract or crappy airplanes with no APU it doesn't mean everybody else should. We make gains at a very slow pace in this industry. Why do YOU exert downward pressure against the gains we have made?

If I was pissed about getting my pay cut by $8/hour would you respond with "Heck I used to make less than that when I flew the shorts"? probably

 

[Snapperhead]

Thats like asking why you mind being junior manned! Or do you like it? I don't.

Hey, you get more hours, per diem, and help the company out. Stop whining.

So your argument is why sit in ATL and get guarantee for flying 24 credit hours? I say why would you want to fly 74.5 hours into the crappiest weather in the country and deal with ORD,IAD,LGA in the United system THEN GET YOUR GUARANTEE? For per diem? Hahahahahahah, thats rich. Get to stay in a hotel room for FREE, thats a treat.

If my QOL is being impacted by bad decisions and incompetence in scheduling I have the RIGHT to be irritated. I prefer to sit reserve in ATL. When I am not being used, I am home. I value that over the pay. By the way, I hit 75-80 hours in ATL most months, not 24.

If you dont mind being TDY to Dulles then volunteer for it. That may be coming in the future.


I am amazed at the responses when someone voices concern or dissatisfaction with the way things are being run. Every time someone complains about being pushed into taking an AC with no APU in the summer, you would expect support. Instead we get "Well, I did it for years at XYZ airline" so that makes you a whiner.

We are not in a college fraternity. Just because you or I had to fly with a broken contract or crappy airplanes with no APU it doesn't mean everybody else should. We make gains at a very slow pace in this industry. Why do YOU exert downward pressure against the gains we have made?

If I was pissed about getting my pay cut by $8/hour would you respond with "Heck I used to make less than that when I flew the shorts"? probably

You went from being TDY'd, to no APU, to a broken contract, and finally an eight hour pay cut. You are all over the chart brother. I'll back you up on the APU issue everytime; but, the TDY thing is something that you are going to have to deal with yourself. If the company is breaking the contract somehow then that is one thing. If you think we should not be TDY'd at all for some reason, you need to voice that to our MEC for the next contract.

 

[wms]

Be sure to read the contract on TDY and be prepared to protect yourself.

 

[ePilot22]

If PBS passes, why would Inc put SkyWest in a place where they could grow ASA into the forecast savings? Those guys are already efficient in their planning. ASA isn't. PBS won't save ASA a dime until it either grows or there is turn over. Instead, it will cost them more than it saves. Where would you put the flying? And....... Don't buy the hype about OO vs EV as to who is favored. The only thing favored is who costs the least and where costs can be reduced. If PBS, ASA fits into that category.

Unless ASA has some -700s painted in United colors, SkyWest will be in IAD this summer.




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