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Well, the FO remark aside.....I agree. I'm sitting here looking at them now. Whats with the 2:54 credit 3 day to BTR still around, and now a 3 day round trip to OMA. 1 leg Fri, 1 leg back on Sun! Cant they find a round trip or two to put in front or in back of those legs?!?!?!? These line are sad! Almost all the lines are 14 days off or less! Man, I would love to get off this airplane and have a better schedule. Oh well! All you guys bidding the 700 ---- STAY AWAY!
 
Not to rain on your parade, but we've been doing 5-days with overnights in LGA and BDL for quite a while. Next month is better at Comair, but the last few months have seen nothing but 5-days. Not to mention for three years we've been stuck in ROC and BUF, and if we're really lucky, BGR.
 
boknowsASA said:
Holy Sh** has anyone taken a look at the CR7 ATL lines for April. I don't know WTF Kevin Watts and his crew were thinking??? I sure hope that he was strong-armed by the company because these are the worst lines I have ever seen. 4days followed by a day line with two days off and than start it all over again. 4days that have all 3 nights in LGA. WTF Kevin are you thinking? The number one line has only 16 days off. I had a top 15 line for this month and had 18days off and still was flying over 90hrs.

With SH** like this Im sure some are already calling for Kevin Watts to resign now! Thats what you get letting an F/O try and build lines!!!

Welcome to Air Wisconsin!
 
Hey Bo,

Please don't take offense here sir, but wouldn't picking up the phone and calling Kevin be more productive than anonymously criticizing his work on FLIGHTINFO?

I suppose complaining is a lot more fun than finding out what's really going on. Time for a gut check Bo. Have some integrity and either call or write the guy. Hope things get better for you guys over there.

I am sorry your lines suck. What'cha gonna do about it?
 
LJDRVR said:
Hey Bo,

Please don't take offense here sir, but wouldn't picking up the phone and calling Kevin be more productive than anonymously criticizing his work on FLIGHTINFO?

I suppose complaining is a lot more fun than finding out what's really going on. Time for a gut check Bo. Have some integrity and either call or write the guy. Hope things get better for you guys over there.

I am sorry your lines suck. What'cha gonna do about it?


He has Already gotten an E-mail and a phone call from me letting him know how we feel about the SH** they came up with!
 
bvt1151 said:
Not to rain on your parade, but we've been doing 5-days with overnights in LGA and BDL for quite a while.

I think I'll pass on LGA but I'll trade you for the BDLs. I have TUL, OKC, and MCO available and all the peanuts, crackers, and granola bars you can eat. I'll even throw in a few Mr. Pibbs from my own stash. Deal?
 
shamrock said:
I think I'll pass on LGA but I'll trade you for the BDLs. I have TUL, OKC, and MCO available and all the peanuts, crackers, and granola bars you can eat. I'll even throw in a few Mr. Pibbs from my own stash. Deal?

Deal!!! Do you know how hard it is to rustle up a Mr. Pibb in the Delta network!?!?

How nice it would be if we could really trade this easily ;)
 
bvt1151 said:
Deal!!! Do you know how hard it is to rustle up a Mr. Pibb in the Delta network!?!?

I don't know about the rest of the network, but at ASA there should be a "OPEN ONLY IN CASE OF EMERGENCY" sign on the can (singular) of Mr. Pibb in each galley. Get the wrong FA or an FA having a bad day and you just might pull back a bloody stump after reaching for it.


Just out of curiosity, where do you guys stay on your BDL overnights?
 
The female chief pilot, (Kim?) said that the bid packets were sent out incorrect on the 700. She said that new packet will be out sun or mon. The pairings were correct, but the lines were fubar.
 
Those are out. They suck worse than the others. Less days off, less block time.
 
shamrock said:
Just out of curiosity, where do you guys stay on your BDL overnights?

Doubletree about a half mile from the airport. Its the one with only about two tv stations (the movie preview channel and Univision), $10 for internet access, and a restaraunt that never seems to publish their hours, nor keeps the same hours day after day. At least you get a cookie.

The Ramada across the street offers a nice happy hour complete with free munchies, though. Try to be at least moderately sober for the trip back across the street, though. Almost learned that one the hard way;)
 
I was going to post something earlier but waited. I believe the pilot group stated on this board and every other place known to man that long overnights and long sits were BS. I also remember a ton of griping about long airport sits. Oops don't forget about the Deadhead complaints that I heard every other day. It looks like they cleaned up all that jazz... Don't get me wrong there is still a 40 some hour sit in JFK... (FO's/Captains please drop if you don't know how to spend 40+ hours in NYC let the real hell raisers have a crack)
So there you go. Pilots always a sharp group asked for changes that lowered there quality of life... Imagine that. Careful what you ask for. Hey 14 days off max all lines pretty even at 85ish hours. Seniority now has no benefits. Well done guys. Next week why don't you b!tch about something else.
 
sXeflyer said:
The female chief pilot, (Kim?) said that the bid packets were sent out incorrect on the 700. She said that new packet will be out sun or mon. The pairings were correct, but the lines were fubar.

I wouldn't bank on it. They did have to do it for SLC because they had CDOs mixed with regular lines.

2 crew planners were out this week so the other 2 had to do most of the work. Kevin was at "The Mecca" working on a "project" and spent very, very little time with our planners. And when he was there the planners wanted to do more but Kevin said they look fine, put them out.
 
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boknowsASA said:
Holy Sh** has anyone taken a look at the CR7 ATL lines for April. I don't know WTF Kevin Watts and his crew were thinking??? I sure hope that he was strong-armed by the company because these are the worst lines I have ever seen. 4days followed by a day line with two days off and than start it all over again. 4days that have all 3 nights in LGA. WTF Kevin are you thinking? The number one line has only 16 days off. I had a top 15 line for this month and had 18days off and still was flying over 90hrs.

With SH** like this Im sure some are already calling for Kevin Watts to resign now! Thats what you get letting an F/O try and build lines!!!

Sure. BTW, there are probably alot of FO's there that have more experience than you so be careful who you say that to.
 
texx - you dont know what the hell your talking about. The guy just had a kid and has been there everyday for the two weeks he has had the job. How quick do you think he can fix it? Dont throw crap out from behind a screen name that are groundless. I talked to people first hand that saw him working on this stuff personnaly until he had to release it. He didnt inherit the sharpest team from what I hear.

Give the guy a friggin chance. Two bloody weeks you prick! You think you can do better get your ambiguous ass over there and try. Dont stab a fellow pilot and good guy in the back so you can post a flaming message and make yourself feel better. He will fix it, but not likely with f&%ks like you posting garbage.
 
Give the guy a friggin chance. Two bloody weeks you prick! You think you can do better get your ambiguous ass over there and try. Dont stab a fellow pilot and good guy in the back so you can post a flaming message and make yourself feel better. He will fix it, but not likely with f&%ks like you posting garbage.

Dont hold anything back. Tell us how you really feel!

I agree, give the man a chance.
 
crjskipper said:
texx - you dont know what the hell your talking about. The guy just had a kid and has been there everyday for the two weeks he has had the job. How quick do you think he can fix it? Dont throw crap out from behind a screen name that are groundless. I talked to people first hand that saw him working on this stuff personnaly until he had to release it. He didnt inherit the sharpest team from what I hear.

Give the guy a friggin chance. Two bloody weeks you prick! You think you can do better get your ambiguous ass over there and try. Dont stab a fellow pilot and good guy in the back so you can post a flaming message and make yourself feel better. He will fix it, but not likely with f&%ks like you posting garbage.

Scott,

Your medication is in the medicine cabinet, second shelf, right side, behind the untouched shaving cream.

Take 2 now and 2 prior to your next post.
 
nethan said:
Hey, be nice. Some places have to deal with the top lines having 13 days off.

That's right lets race to the bottom. How about bringing up the bottom rather than lowering the top. 18 days off and 85 hours of pay works for me in a CRJ or Airbus.
RF
 
crjskipper said:
texx - you dont know what the hell your talking about. The guy just had a kid and has been there everyday for the two weeks he has had the job. How quick do you think he can fix it? Dont throw crap out from behind a screen name that are groundless. I talked to people first hand that saw him working on this stuff personnaly until he had to release it. He didnt inherit the sharpest team from what I hear.

Give the guy a friggin chance. Two bloody weeks you prick! You think you can do better get your ambiguous ass over there and try. Dont stab a fellow pilot and good guy in the back so you can post a flaming message and make yourself feel better. He will fix it, but not likely with f&%ks like you posting garbage.

Mr Uneducated. I do know what I am talking about. I was not saying he was doing a bad job. Read the post carefully. I made a clear statement of what he was doing at the end of this past week. No flame as you put it and only the facts of what took place this week.

You didn't talk to the 2 people that had to work late 2 nights did you.
 
Our 700 lines for next month have amaximum of 13 days off. Most with 12 and some with only 10 days off. Most with only about 84hrs of credit. Your lines are not the worst lines ever created.
 
boknowsASA said:
Holy Sh** has anyone taken a look at the CR7 ATL lines for April. I don't know WTF Kevin Watts and his crew were thinking??? I sure hope that he was strong-armed by the company because these are the worst lines I have ever seen. 4days followed by a day line with two days off and than start it all over again. 4days that have all 3 nights in LGA. WTF Kevin are you thinking? The number one line has only 16 days off. I had a top 15 line for this month and had 18days off and still was flying over 90hrs.

With SH** like this Im sure some are already calling for Kevin Watts to resign now! Thats what you get letting an F/O try and build lines!!!


Typical response from self important know-it-alls. If you think Kevin has that much control over the schedules...well, that's the problem, you're thinking. When you think, it hurts the team.

You see there are a few other 'small' factors that play into this...LIKE DELTA for example. There are also, in order of importance, other factors like; destination schedules, aircraft availability, aircraft maintenance, flight attendents, and least important, whiny a.ss cry baby pilots.

Help Kevin out, don't bash him on a public forum cause the schedule doesn't fit your needs. You might also give the guy a few months to get into the flow.
 
Haha, I second that! Guess what, there are always gonna be some crappy lines no matter how hard anybody tries. I called up Kevin personally for a schedule issue and not only did he call me back after I left a message, he was extremely helpful and went way above what I expected.

silverandsoar said:
Typical response from self important know-it-alls. If you think Kevin has that much control over the schedules...well, that's the problem, you're thinking. When you think, it hurts the team.

You see there are a few other 'small' factors that play into this...LIKE DELTA for example. There are also, in order of importance, other factors like; destination schedules, aircraft availability, aircraft maintenance, flight attendents, and least important, whiny a.ss cry baby pilots.

Help Kevin out, don't bash him on a public forum cause the schedule doesn't fit your needs. You might also give the guy a few months to get into the flow.
 
Weasil said:
Our 700 lines for next month have amaximum of 13 days off. Most with 12 and some with only 10 days off. Most with only about 84hrs of credit. Your lines are not the worst lines ever created.

Ouch.
 
silverandsoar said:
Typical response from self important know-it-alls. If you think Kevin has that much control over the schedules...well, that's the problem, you're thinking. When you think, it hurts the team.

You see there are a few other 'small' factors that play into this...LIKE DELTA for example. There are also, in order of importance, other factors like; destination schedules, aircraft availability, aircraft maintenance, flight attendents, and least important, whiny a.ss cry baby pilots.

Help Kevin out, don't bash him on a public forum cause the schedule doesn't fit your needs. You might also give the guy a few months to get into the flow.

hahaha thats awesome man. I agree some of you guys are too much. I swear some of these guys would find something to cry about if they had 17 days off avg with 85 hours credit. For some reason or another pilots tend to be whiners. Maybe its because too many try to live in the past. Sorry guys the glory days are over. No more 2 on 5 off schedules. If you come into this job with realistic expectations you will be alright. HOLLA
 
D'Angelo said:
hahaha thats awesome man. I agree some of you guys are too much. I swear some of these guys would find something to cry about if they had 17 days off avg with 85 hours credit. For some reason or another pilots tend to be whiners. Maybe its because too many try to live in the past. Sorry guys the glory days are over. No more 2 on 5 off schedules. If you come into this job with realistic expectations you will be alright. HOLLA

I've figured out who Duh Angelo is....it's Willie.
 
goodto50meters said:
Scott,

Your medication is in the medicine cabinet, second shelf, right side, behind the untouched shaving cream.

Take 2 now and 2 prior to your next post.

This is not Scott. It's Kevin Watt's brother. He flys at ASA.
 

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