ASA CRJ Crew Bag Issue, MUST READ!

[anon]

I don't see how the feds can violate you if you account for the weight and balance of the crewbag.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I don't see how the feds can violate you if you account for the weight and balance of the crewbag.

I wondered the same. Had a Capt put his bag in the cabin and just asked me to add 1 carry-on to the load manifest every leg. Sounded legit to me as the bag was accounted for.

 

[Tim47SIP]

No big deal!

Just ignore it! This will all pass. Put the bags where you want to. Mine goes on the cart with a big pink tag! It is to big for the overheads. I check it's location as soon as I get off the aircraft on the post flight.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Supposedly C Tutt is working on the issue according to the union. I guess he is one of the few at the glass palace that gets it. Supposedly dec. 1 is the target they are shooting for to resolve the issue. We'll see.

 

[bailout]

if you look in the manual, and your bag is smaller than 21 inches, it is ALLOWED in the cabin as a personal item per the FAA!

 

[CRJ puppy]

U guys r babies...in almost 3 yrs of flying, i have yet to have had aproblem with my bag in the back...just remember, what goes around, comes around...or something like that (delta slogan)!!!!!!!!!!!

 

["GO AROUND"]

U guys r babies...in almost 3 yrs of flying, i have yet to have had aproblem with my bag in the back...just remember, what goes around, comes around...or something like that (delta slogan)!!!!!!!!!!!

Good for you.

 

["GO AROUND"]

if you look in the manual, and your bag is smaller than 21 inches, it is ALLOWED in the cabin as a personal item per the FAA!

Good point, but that doesn't get you by the company . Yet, they aren't looking for crews putting their bags inside.

 

[ifly4food]

Didn't one of your captains get suspended because he went to baggage claim to retrieve his bag (it was accidently sent then) and delayed the flight?

I call BS, but there has to be more to the story. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen, especially if he has a condition that requires control drugs...drugs that were in his suitcase.

I promise you that it happened. Go ask CP KR about telling him to wash his undrwear in the sink.

 

[HoserASA]

Received an answer to my "AskASA" question on this subject. Dec 1st is the date that things return to the way they have been. If your bag fits you can place it in the overhead. Otherwise in the back it goes with new 'yellow bags' and Delta-type crew tags. Details to come about all this.

A big part of this being resolved is our MEC Chair informing VP CT that bags contain uniform items, passport, etc, and that security reports would be made if a pilot's bag was taken away from the plane. Mine has my spare glasses which our SPs require, so that would prevent me from flying .

Thanks to our MEC for helping resolve this, and VP CT for seeing our point on this, and actually doing something about it in a timely manner. Refreshing for sure!

Hoser

 

[jrav8tor]

I've never put mine in an overhead (won't fit anyway). I've always put it on the carry on cart myself before I get on the plane. I've been on the RJ for almost 2 years now and I've NEVER had my bag go missing. NEVER. Not once. Nothing inside has ever been damaged and the bag has never been damaged. I do miss that fwd cargo on the ATR though.

I've never flown with anyone who has had their bag go missing. FO or FA. Not once.

Almost everyone I've flown with has put their bag on the cart as well. Very few put their bag in an overhead.

maybe those of you who are losing your bags are the same ones I watch roll their bag up to the side of the plane and leave it there for the ramp folks to put it on the cart for you. Funny thing about treating people like second class citizens; if they get a chance to get you back, they will....

I have lately started to put my bag in the new locker up front if I know I'm overnighting somewhere that has a jetway...for 2 reasons:

1. I'm too lazy to get the door code, walk down the steps, get the bag and carry it back up the stairs.

2. I don't want the ramp folks to have to lift my heavy ass bag up and over the railing. Seen too many 100# girls trying to lift my 60# bag. I'm from the south, we don't let women do stuff like that...

Wow!

Everyone I fly with puts their bag in the overhead bin! I have flown with only on person that consistently put their bag on the luggage cart or on the ground where a luggage cart should be and that was because it wouldn't fit in the overhead.

I have had my bag misplaced/lost 2 times in the past year and had to spend the night without it. I personally know of 3 other people that had to spend an overnight without their bags due to the bags being misplaced by ground crew. Funny thing is both times they lost my bag I made sure it was on the cart (during turns) when I did the walk around.

I do use the locker religiously, just for the simple fact I will always know where my bag is and it doesn't get wet sitting on the cart when it's raining.

I do agree with your comments about treating people as 2nd class citizens.

On a side note, during recurrent, I was told the reason we aren't allowed to use the overhead anymore is because ASA doesn't have it written down in our current baggage policy. So the FAA says, I don't care where the crews put their bags, as long as it is covered in the paperwork signed off by the FAA. So all they need to do is write in our policies that crews baggage is allowed in the overheads.

 

[jrav8tor]

I don't see how the feds can violate you if you account for the weight and balance of the crewbag.

From what I was told during recurrent, ASA doesn't have this documented in their policies, so the FAA sees it as a violation. All ASA has to do is write it in.

CT said he is looking into the Delta Deadhead Tag program that Delta uses. He says it's pretty successful, however I don't see the difference from having a pink tag or a CREW tag on it.

 

[Tomct]

Yeah Baby, C.T. is Da Man!! We finally have someone in the palace that actually KNOWS what it is like to be an ACTUAL LINE PILOT!! Sweet Job C.T.
Thanks for the support!

 

[av8er2]

Did he get it approved?

 

[PalmettoPilot]

So exactly what kind of violation would that be anyway?

"Did you damage an airplane?" "Nope."
"Bust an altitude?" "Nope."
"Runway incursion?" "No."
"So what exactly did you do?"

"I put my bag in the overhead"

Oh, the horror!!!!

Shamrock,
Don't forget about the "Careless and Reckless Operation".

Personally I like the suggestion that was made to contact local law enforcement Atlanta Police Non-Emergency 404-853-3434 to report the theft, and to contact the FBI to report the theft of flight crew uniforms. The number to the Atlanta FBI Field Division office is (404) 679-9000.

I lost my bag in RIC a few months ago, it was definitely NOT a priority to get it back to me.

Good luck!