ASA CR2 ATL- Killeen

[Airboss]

Starts Sept. 7

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Flight Departs Arrives Aircraft
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4866(a) Killeen-Fort Hood Atlanta CRJ200
at 7 a.m. at 10:10 a.m.
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4867 Atlanta Killeen-Fort Hood CRJ200
at 10:45 a.m. at 12:05 p.m.
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4868 Killeen-Fort Hood Atlanta CRJ200
at 12:30 p.m. at 3:40 p.m.
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4869 Atlanta Killeen-Fort Hood CRJ200
at 7:40 p.m. at 9 p.m.

 

[General Lee]

Now there is a good route for a 50 seat RJ. (no joke) Go to a place that has a large potential for traffic (Ft Hood), and no LCC competition. The other airlines flying there are COEX and Eagle, and they have routes to their Texas hubs. DL via ASA will offer a different alternative, especially for servicemen and families going to Europe. (German bases etc) Good job route planning. I also like McAllen service, along with Corpus Christi and Beaumont (good routes for those 50 seaters too), although I don't think I would personally go to any of those except Corpus Christi, which is close to South Padre.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

Now there is a good route for a 50 seat RJ. (no joke) Go to a place that has a large potential for traffic (Ft Hood), and no LCC competition. The other airlines flying there are COEX and Eagle, and they have routes to their Texas hubs. DL via ASA will offer a different alternative, especially for servicemen and families going to Europe. (German bases etc) Good job route planning. I also like McAllen service, along with Corpus Christi and Beaumont (good routes for those 50 seaters too), although I don't think I would personally go to any of those except Corpus Christi, which is close to South Padre.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Thank you General for your contribution. You are a real ASSet to this 'board.

 

[SpyFlysDOTs]

Killeen means major luggage.
Use to fly that route from IAH.
Servicemen have large backpacks, duffles, etc etc etc.

 

[General Lee]

Thank you General for your contribution. You are a real ASSet to this 'board.

I am not looking for your praise at all. I don't really care. I post my opinion and move on. Great word ASSociation, though.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Superpilot92]

we run in and out of there a couple times but its mostly Colgan that does it because the Jet doesnt fill up all the time its just like College station.

Actually Allegiant flys in to Ft. Hood Killeen also out of Vegas. I have been in there when Southwest was there but they were there doing a Military Charter.

 

["GO AROUND"]

The flight is long enough to burn enough gas for there to not be weight issues on the 50. I never understood why it has taken this long to do this flt. ATL being a huge military jump off point and so many folks stationed at fort hood it only makes sense. Although the government has never been one to pay a whole lot for fares.

 

[Lolikoka]

Did they extend the runway?

Did they extend the runway in Killeen? A few years ago the dispatcher tried to get us to divert there during DFW thunderstorms, and it took us a while to convince him that we didn't have runway data for it, and while we could have physically landed there, a CRJ would never take off from there again - legally anyway.

 

[WhatRUSmokinGL?]

although I don't think I would personally go to any of those ....


Bye Bye--General Lee

Too good to go to Killeen?

 

[79%N1]

Whew......I'm soooooo glad the General approves of us at ASA flying this route!!! That is a load off all of our minds. I only wish Delta/ASA management would consult him prior to making these decisions!

 

[WhatRUSmokinGL?]

Whew......I'm soooooo glad the General approves of us at ASA flying this route!!! That is a load off all of our minds. I only wish Delta/ASA management would consult him prior to making these decisions!

I am surprised that he wasn't telling us everyday for the last two months that it WOULD HAPPEN. He knows everything at DAL, just ask him.

 

[General Lee]

Did they extend the runway in Killeen? A few years ago the dispatcher tried to get us to divert there during DFW thunderstorms, and it took us a while to convince him that we didn't have runway data for it, and while we could have physically landed there, a CRJ would never take off from there again - legally anyway.

They now use Grey Army Airfield, not the small Killeen airport. The runway there is plenty big.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Whew......I'm soooooo glad the General approves of us at ASA flying this route!!! That is a load off all of our minds. I only wish Delta/ASA management would consult him prior to making these decisions!

I've got plenty of more suggestions for your management, trust me. If you are going to even fly the high CASM 50 seat RJ, it is best for you to be able to charge a premium, so we at Delta can get our money back (not me, the company). Didn't Comair lose us $140 million last year alone? We need RJs to fly to cities that even the LCCs avoid, like Killeen.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Alchemy]

Did they extend the runway in Killeen? A few years ago the dispatcher tried to get us to divert there during DFW thunderstorms, and it took us a while to convince him that we didn't have runway data for it, and while we could have physically landed there, a CRJ would never take off from there again - legally anyway.

Yes, actually, they built a new terminal at a different airport. It is now located at Gray Army Airfield (GRK). The runway is 9999 x 200 ft.

Good route for ASA. Actually, Every time I've flown there in the ERJ, we've been full, and close to max weight because of the bags. You usually get 20 or 30 "heavy bags" on that route.

Colgan's Saab's are horribly weight restricted. They usually have to leave with 5 or more empty seats in order to take all the bags from what I understand.

 

[General Lee]

Too good to go to Killeen?

Actually, I have been there, or driven through there. It was ok. The Army people probably love it.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[uba757]

General so how much did Delta looooooooooooooose last year. I think $140 mil is a drop in the bucket in comparison. UBA757

 

[WhatRUSmokinGL?]

Dated APR 04, 2006
"Delta, which is operating under bankruptcy protection and lost more than $500 million in January and February..."


That's about 8.47 mil per day. Which if memory serves is twice the loss of last years estimates of 4 mil per day.

Of course each dime of lost $$$$ is the fault of the RJ's and the RJ pilots!!!


Right General Lea?!

Source:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,189923,00.html

 

[ASAFOE120]

We used to go there in the bro from big D. Allways full!! We used to stay at the HOJO. Wonder if we're going back there. Not the nicest hotel but lots of restaurants and junk.

 

[Richard Gozinya]

The part the army people love is watching General Leigh's car as it drives right on out of the area.

 

["GO AROUND"]

deleted for redundancy.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Yes, actually, they built a new terminal at a different airport. It is now located at Gray Army Airfield (GRK). The runway is 9999 x 200 ft.

I was wondering about that too. I remember going there (at the old airport) in the Brasilia, and sometimes it was close in that thing in a hot day. No way a -200 could ever make it out.

 

[skywdriver]

Now there is a good route for a 50 seat RJ. (no joke) Go to a place that has a large potential for traffic (Ft Hood), and no LCC competition. The other airlines flying there are COEX and Eagle, and they have routes to their Texas hubs. DL via ASA will offer a different alternative, especially for servicemen and families going to Europe. (German bases etc) Good job route planning. I also like McAllen service, along with Corpus Christi and Beaumont (good routes for those 50 seaters too), although I don't think I would personally go to any of those except Corpus Christi, which is close to South Padre.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Just to save you some time, I wouldn't recommend a visit to Corpus Christi, only thing you will get out of that is tar on your feet.

 

[difete]

Use to go there when we flew bros for COA. Nice place, sometimes you get a nice view of the mighty US military aircraft!!

Also back then World Airways DC10 use to be there transporting troops back and forth.

The taxiway to the terminal is kinna funny, its like going really uphill.

 

[spinproof]

I've got plenty of more suggestions for your management, trust me. If you are going to even fly the high CASM 50 seat RJ, it is best for you to be able to charge a premium, so we at Delta can get our money back (not me, the company). Didn't Comair lose us $140 million last year alone? We need RJs to fly to cities that even the LCCs avoid, like Killeen.

Bye Bye--General Lee

I've got a suggestion for you. Worry about cleaning up your own house before asking others to do the same.

The 140 mil to which you speak doesnt show up as a loss at DOT(at least not until DAL declared bankruptcy)...only in the minds of you and your creative bookkeepers at DAL!

Hmmmmm...Skywest seems to be doing OK with their and ASA's CL65's....guess they made a great deal!

I suppose one can only hope some mis-guided over-cashed miscreant will shell out the small change to aquire Comair and DAL will start making money again!

I do get some satisfaction knowing Comair and its' pilots are a "burr" in your saddle.

 

[nimtz]

By far my least favorite overnight at my regional. When I refer to Texas as worthless sh!thole to people, Killeen is strong emprical evidence.

 

[skywdriver]

By far my least favorite overnight at my regional. When I refer to Texas as worthless sh!thole to people, Killeen is strong emprical evidence.

Killeen is hardly a good representation of Texas. Go to Austin, spend some time partying with the unlimited amount of beautiful women downtown where there are 100's of bars within walking distance, hopefully in the spring or fall so it isn't hot as crap, then come back with your opinion of Texas. Using Killeen to judge Texas is like using a girls arm pit to judge how bad you want her in the sack, just doesn't make any sense. Check out the more interesting areas. Just my take, cheers

 

[BoilerUP]

Ummm.......Never been there, but I'd hazard to guess that Kileen is *much* more representative of Texas as a whole than Austin is.

 

[nimtz]

Killeen is hardly a good representation of Texas. Go to Austin, spend some time partying with the unlimited amount of beautiful women downtown where there are 100's of bars within walking distance, hopefully in the spring or fall so it isn't hot as crap, then come back with your opinion of Texas. Using Killeen to judge Texas is like using a girls arm pit to judge how bad you want her in the sack, just doesn't make any sense. Check out the more interesting areas. Just my take, cheers

I agree with you on all sentiments as relates towards Austin. Great town, great music and alot of wild women. Unfortantely my opinon of Texas is shaped by far too many nights in Lubbock, Midland, Laredo, Victoria, etc...

Don't get me started on Houston, but then again I am a Yankee piece of cr@p...:beer:

 

[skywdriver]

I agree with you on all sentiments as relates towards Austin. Great town, great music and alot of wild women. Unfortantely my opinon of Texas is shaped by far too many nights in Lubbock, Midland, Laredo, Victoria, etc...

Don't get me started on Houston, but then again I am a Yankee piece of cr@p...:beer:

Sorry to hear that, at least you have seen the good part of Texas, even if you don't get to spend that much time there!!!