ASA and having a baby

[goose32]

I have spoken to many about this and have yet to get a concrete answer. I also looked over the FMLA info. I was hoping someone on here might have had some recent experience.
If I use FMLA can I use the sick time in my sick bank so I can still make some $$? I have heard it answered both ways.
I am concerned that if I do FMLA I won't be paid because I can't use my sick time b/c I am not the one "sick/injured"...my wife is. If that is the case I would plan on just calling in sick and not bother with FMLA. Thanks for any info or who you think I could reach for the real answer.

 

[sweptback]

You can't use your sick time if you are just taking family leave.

 

[fullforward]

sorry no pay on FMLA...stupid rule at a time when you could use the extra $$. Good luck and congrats on the new one!

 

[KickItOut]

ummm....i am currently on FMLA, however I am using it for myself (MED leave section 9 in the contract) not only can you use sick time, YOU HAVE TO! and you get paid for your sick time. also, you can use vacation time if you have any left AND you can use vacation you've accrued for next year if you so choose. the company would not mind selling you next years vacation at this years rate.

 

[rightseatjocky]

I would just call in sick until your sick time runs out then use your fmla.

 

[Medeco]

I would just call in sick until your sick time runs out then use your fmla.

BINGO!!!

Medeco

 

[1080P]

Have had two kids at ASA and you can use your vacation but not sick time. Todd M. is a great guy and will help you out with any questions.

 

[Speedtape]

Sick leave can only be claimed if it is the employee who is sick--FMLA or not.

 

[sinkrate]

If I use FMLA can I use the sick time in my sick bank so I can still make some $$?

The law - as I understand it - is actually silent on this issue. It is determined by Company policy. Some employers, particularly those with 'paid time off' benefits, will allow you to use accrued sick time when FMLA leave is to care for a family member. In the airline industry it is rare.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Sick leave can only be claimed if the employee is sick. Hmm Has anyone ever called in for a trip and they weren't sick? I am sure that the majority of us are guilty of that once or twice in our lifetimes.
I would use my sick time then my vacation then fmla. The company isn't going to look after you, why look after the company when it comes to this. It's like the military (former Marine) they don't care if you have a kid, just be there for work.
They can't prove you're not sick. Hence morning sickness and other ailments that come along with it.
You can't take your sick time with you, I use it once a year whether I am sick or not. Sometimes you just need more time off, might as well get paid for it.
:beer:

 

[goose32]

I have a week of vacation left. I guess I could use it at first for a week of FMLA to get paid. Then I could come off FMLA and start calling in sick. Sounds like a plan, but how anal is ASA? Will this strategy raise eyebrows?

 

[Raskal]

The law - as I understand it - is actually silent on this issue. It is determined by Company policy. Some employers, particularly those with 'paid time off' benefits, will allow you to use accrued sick time when FMLA leave is to care for a family member. In the airline industry it is rare.

At my previous job I used FMLA to care for a sick daughter. sinkrate is right in that the law is silent about pay, it just mandates that the time must be given. In my case I continued to be paid at a base rate thanks to my employer. Your HR benefits person should know what your company policy is.

 

[Morettis]

I'm currently using FMLA to take extra days off to visit my dad who's sick, and Ameriflight's policy is to use all of your sick days before you start taking the days unpaid.

 

[McNugent]

ummm....i am currently on FMLA, however I am using it for myself (MED leave section 9 in the contract) not only can you use sick time, YOU HAVE TO! and you get paid for your sick time. also, you can use vacation time if you have any left AND you can use vacation you've accrued for next year if you so choose. the company would not mind selling you next years vacation at this years rate.

Get better dude. Heard you are definitely comming back next week. Sweeeeeet

 

[rightseatjocky]

Oh, I forgot to say,
Mesa sucks!!!
:uzi:

 

[Airline RC]

Have had two kids at ASA and you can use your vacation but not sick time. Todd M. is a great guy and will help you out with any questions.

This is CORRECT info!

 

[Rizzo]

FMLA (the real gov't one) is not available for airline employees due to how your work time is calculated. Since you are capped at 100 hrs per month you don't work enough to meet the official requirements. HOWEVER, your contract may have it's own version of FMLA for you. It will differ at each company. My husband is at Eagle and has to use his vacation, if there is any left, during his leave. He can NOT use sick leave.

 

[Rizzo]

And before someone says I'm wrong:

Airline employees have failed to qualify for the FMLA because the law requires most employers to provide unpaid leave to only those employees who have worked 60 percent of a full-time schedule over the course of a year. The courts and federal agencies have defined “full-time schedule” as that of a traditional 40-hour workweek, thereby excluding any employee who does not fall within the traditional workday, according to the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA . The union explains that this concept does not work for flight attendants because time spent between trips, whether during the day or on overnights, does not count toward their time at work. Despite the fact that some flight attendants may be away from home for up to 20 days a month while working, it is virtually impossible for a full-time flight attendant to meet the annual threshold of 1,250 hours, the union says.

 

[Speedtape]

FMLA (the real gov't one) is not available for airline employees due to how your work time is calculated. Since you are capped at 100 hrs per month you don't work enough to meet the official requirements. HOWEVER, your contract may have it's own version of FMLA for you. It will differ at each company. My husband is at Eagle and has to use his vacation, if there is any left, during his leave. He can NOT use sick leave.

FMLA is standard, unless there is a collective bargaining agreement. Depending on the CBA, FMLA can be quite different from company to company.

FYI, this forum is not the best place to get the details for your specific company. I would suggest that you contact someone in the Leadership of your Union to obtain the correct and specific information.

Apparently, at ASA, recently, there has been some extensive negotiations in this matter that should simplify the process for all employees. However, there are specific duties and time requirements for initial notification and subsequent timely submission of paperwork.

It would be in your best interest to contact your Leadership in your Union to obtain this information as it is still being implemented. It appears that ASA ALPA has worked to achieve simplification of the process. Hopefully, it will work better.

 

[rightseatjocky]

Aww hell, just drop the kid and get back to work!!!
oh ya, mesa sucks !!!!
:uzi: